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The House Judiciary Committee Democrats have released a trove of evidence regarding allegations of sexual assault, including a new rape allegation, against President Donald Trump in relation to Jeffrey Epstein that the lawmakers say has been deliberately covered up by the Department of Justice. The 50-page report, released Monday, contains testimony from 11 women who either accuse Trump of…
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Shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
Someone who was listed over thirty thousand times in the trumpstein files-- I mean the Epstein files-- and who was proven in court to be a rapist, raped more than just one person??? Shocked…
These people need justice.
Over a million. Congress was allowed to view them unredacted and he was there over a million times.
and the one whos his personal lawyer and miss ghislaine coaching team is also in the files.
I am so shocked I have fainted. Please revive me.
I rolled a 1. I’m too afraid to roll again. Sorry.
Oh boy, I can’t wait for fuck all to be done about this!
Notice to the timing. The GOP is tired of trumps shit and no longer willing to protect him. The wagons are circling.
The opossums are stacking
The capybaras are lining up
The squirrels are parallel parking
The blobfish are sliming.
If they are anything like my squirrels, they are barking/screaming.
They have opinions.
I like how this implies wagons are an animal
wagons are uncircling.
Sharks are wagoning.
That’s the idea.
Sacrifice Trump to save their billionaire pedo deep state. Get us back to 2014 so that nothing will change or be addressed.
It is a matter of when, not if. They don’t need him any more, as he’s not allowed to run again. I figure they’re only hesitant in case they can rig a third term somehow, otherwise it’s only a matter of time before they leave a stray rollerskate at the top of the stairs and let nature take its course.
And ruin their chances to move up a rank? No way would a third term fly. On other things, you hear sycophants echoing what he says, tariffs, ice… Hell some even say the war in Iran is necessary, though more and more you hear them splitting from that. What you don’t hear is congressional representatives talking about third term bullshit. Only trump and his aides. But people who think they have a shot at 2028? Hell no. Hegseth and Vance both expect to be next in line.
I expect him to get through November. Then they’ll start showing more of the tics he’s got going on, on red media. I would then expect to see them putting him in more stressful situations. Not just standing in front of a crowd with politicians, he loves that shit. But say at NATO, he starts getting grilled by Fox News, or one news or whatever that’s called, or other news outlets that have always been friendly, start calling him out. Publicly ask him about his record bad polling, all the proof of Epstein. Hell maybe they even just straight up release the files so it looks bad on him, but not the party as a whole. They don’t even need to give him a heart attack. Just enough to make him break down with a tic or dementia episode so bad that even his cult will ask for the 25th, out of “compassion”. That’s the best out for Republicans. And really the only way this whole thing goes down without more fascism and a revolution.
The plague rats have grown tired of the plague you say?
We’ve got him now, there’s no way he can wriggle out of this one…
Come now, we can’t let a little thing like evidence cloud our judgement
This is not the time for finger pointing or litigation. Thoughts and prayers are what the victims need. They are clearly confused by their trauma.
They said that about the impeachment, they said that about the stolen government documents, they said that about a million things he’s done
But everyone forgets, the GOP believe in “the rules are for thee, not for me”, so he will get away with it
We joke but the timing on this couldn’t be worse. It read more like the dems firing a warning shot.
“This is happening wether you like it or not. Anyone who survives these midterms will fall in line.”
Should have saved this for after the election when making a case for impeachment
Except many of the dems are also implicated.
Ok. Why do people say that like this is partisan?
Innocent people are present in the files. We know that. Wealthy people maintain large social networks and a document sweep should include rather than exclude. Hell, Bash reference manual is present in the files.
It’s just that everyone needs to be held accountable.
Burn them all
Dems don’t protect their own. They toss risks out into the ice flow.
Donald was mentioned in the files more times than Jesus was mentioned in the Bible. Yeah, I’m not surprised that they managed to find testimony from 11 different women.
That’s one thing, second things is that his name was 3rd most mentioned name in the released files after Maxwell and of course Epstein.
He clearly wasn’t just a customer but part of the conspiracy. His whole modeling business was likely providing young girls to be exploited.
The fbi had it titled the trump-epstein trafficking case at least twice in the files before the big wave of redaction post release.
Trump is mentioned in the (released) Epstein files more times than Harry Potter was mentioned in all seven Harry Potter books.
I was a big fan of the Draco Malfoy books.
Things that have frequently harmed children
drag shows- giant-ass pickup trucks
trans rights- pedophiles
gay marriage- missile strikes
banned books- firearms
birth control access- churches
- racism
education- ignorance
Who is fighting to protect what here?
vaccinesMeasles
It’s unsatisfyingly ironic that the right is virtue signalling caring for children.
Anytime they hey outraged in defence of something. Children, women’s sports, racism (when supposedly black people were constantly attacking Asian people over covid or people are mean to Israel), it’s never actually that they give a shit about what they so vakiantly defending. It’s just that they can use it as a tool to further shit on/stomp on a different group they already did, and want to more.
And by pretending to care about group, or cause, X it gives them, at least in their eyes, a “get out of bigotry free” card.
Now we really know what they mean when they say “think of the children”
the question is NOT whether he is guilty or not. it’s how many Americans can work together to stop MAGA, it’s like a foreign invading army, but it’s just other Americans who DONT give af about the constitution or playing fair.
However: Trump is not the cause, do NOT focus on only Trump or His Family, though they also deserve scrutiny.
Trump/Maga are symptoms of something much more toxic and cancerous and indecent lurking with every American. Trail of Tears, The Mylai Massacre all was ordinary soldiers, same with Abu Grahib. Every century since it’s inception the USA: rape rape rape, century in century out. cant even say the word on youtube to speak openly about it. Americans like to JOKE about "dont drop the soap" in the shower in prison, like prison rape is supposed to be funny or PART of the punishment!?!? the fuck is that shit. .
A lot of Americans are really sick. they pretend this stuff is normal… Prove me wrong America.
American here, and while somebody could righteously and pointlessly make a “not all americans” argument, you are spot on about the culture as a whole.
The rape history is valid but even that is a subset of the larger cultural issue where helping others is seen as weak and for suckers, while shameless greed and punching down are what the smart and the strong do. Look at none other than the president. He’s a rapist and a scammer, sure, but he also brags about how he doesn’t pay taxes because he’s smart and his supporters eat it up.
Rape is kind of an international problem, pretty much every war and conquest has involved it heavily forever
its not
Prison rape isn’t, rape absolutely is
Keep in mind that while the USA makes up 2% of the world’s population, it has 25% of the world’s prison population.
System of a Down - Prison Song
True, but that’s due to multiple factors.
There are a lot of people in the USA who are behind bars that don’t deserve to be there, and a lot of other people out on the streets who do belong behind bars.
On the streets or in corner offices on the top floor?
Luigi (allegedly) found a CEO on the street.
MAGA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization, by their own admission at that CPAC convention where they actually displayed it above their stage: “We are all Domestic Terrorists.”
Theyre PROUD of it.
In addition, MAGA is a confirmed, ongoing, ENTHUSIASTIC National Security Threat. As such, MAGA should be prohibited from existing, and any politician aligned with MAGA should be prohibited from holding office. We wouldn’t let an active member of Al-Qaeda or ISIS hold office, and MAGA is EXACTLY the same as them.
Don’t stop there. You’re describing culture toward atrocity. A culture of stuplimity, ignorance, false exceptionalism, Christian nationalism, and liberalist imperialism.
Where did those cultural practices come from?
Why are these the qualities of American leaders?
Why do Americans seem blind to it all?
What do you expect from a country founded by puritan zealots?
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Rape of Nanking
That was Japanese soldiers in China. Maybe you knew and intended it that way as a further example, but just clarifying for anyone not familiar.
you are correct and the post has been update with the mylai massacre.
crazy how i could just find one to replace it: JUST LIKE THAT
Biden had four years to deal with this guy and just didn’t.
shouldve replaced garland the moment he wouldnt do anything, but he knows garland wouldnt do anything about it though. there is more than likely plenty of Dems in the files too.
Plenty of big donors to the Dems. That’s more likely who they were protecting.
His friends and donors would’ve gottten implicated as well.
What’s the point in honeypotting only one side of the political spectrum.
I don’t know if I buy it was all a honeypot. I expect at least one state actor got their hands on compromising materials, but it doesn’t seem planed out enough to be a honeypot the entire time
It’ll be fascinating when the world can honestly review the facts to learn what all happened. Sad that can’t happen until Trump and everyone around him is long gone from power
Epstein was the person running the honeypot. You don’t have cameras set up all around your mansion and private island and safe full of CDs and hard drives with labels like {name + “young” name} for a one off job. He also had 2 official passports from different countries and no source of income to become a billionaire. He was state sponsored. His girlfriends dad was an obvious mossad agent.
would have been
Nah got to gotten
That works too.
The worst thing Biden ever did was refuse to push harder on Trump. He had four years to get one of the prosecutions (plural) settled, including the one where we have publicly released phone call recordings of Trump committing the crime. Yeah, the Georgia prosecutor fucked up, but they slow rolled it before the fuck up meaning there wasn’t time to recover from the fuck up.
Biden also had four years to release the Epstein files, but he didn’t. Even if he knew the prosecutions would not have been successful and was playing a political game of “we’re doing this the right way and not doing a knee-jerk witch hunt,” releasing the files in their full would have gotten this ball rolling in a very different DOJ and FBI environment. It also would have given the public more time to see the connections.
The classified documents was an open and shut case that they let the fucking judge slow walk the shit out of.
Please spell out which motions could have been brought to speed things up.
https://thelegalguide.org/how-get-judge-removed-your-case-recusal-disqualification/
Sorry, I’m not a lawyer. Do you think Cannon wasn’t obviously in the tank for trump?
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-does-the-law-say-about-recusing-judge-cannon
An attempt was made in a later case (partially based on conduct in this case) and was denied. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/29/trump-judge-aileen-cannon-assassination-case-deny-recuse.html
Any other motion suggestion that might’ve sped up the case?
Biden also got handed a court ruling saying the President can do literally anything he wants and he basically just shrugged at it
I love how this statement still gets downvoted, all these years later. Pure denialism, even in a community full of die-hard Trump haters.
Making a Federalist Society member the Attorney General was a very bad idea.
I want Jack Smith or Vanita Gupta to be the next AG.
Which is EXACTLY why he was Voted back in JUST like how we KNEW Trump was in the Files so DIDNT vote for Him again!
I bet you there’s more in those unreleased Epstein files
Of course. Over half documents are still not released and Todd Blanche argues they are just duplicates.
Then proceeds to fight in court release of those “duplicates”. If they really are duplicates why waste time appealing, why not just release them?
Because these fascists are a bunch of lying cheating pedophile traitor filth, that’s why.
At this point you’re looking for LOGIC???
todd blanche is also in the files of all the people trump use as his personal attorney, he took the one most implicated besides himself in the files.
Those are the ones that have completely been destroyed.
To some degree they might be duplicates. Same people, same shit, different timestamp.
Go ahead and release them so everyone can SEE. they are duplicates.
If they are duplicates (like they say) then it doesn’t matter if they are released.
Lying bastards are hiding something.
Because Blanche is donnie’s personal lawyer.
Like the videos of the rapes happening
I want to know those will be used to prosecute but damn I hope they never get leaked. Those poor children.
Bunch of them would be dead by now, they won’t know.
Yeah, but I still don’t want to see it.
billionaires, ceos, movie executives, other countries politician that dont wan to be exposed.
Just pick the strongest case, prosecute him, and give him a life sentence, and get this shit over with.
No. For the sake of all his rapes survivors, he should be prosecuted for each and every assault he committed.
Let him be ashamed again and again, let the world knnw he’s punished for each of them.
Don’t let any of his victims believe they are insignificant. None of them is.
Let him be ashamed again and again
Do you think this man has ever been ashamed of anything? He would sit in the court and think all these witnesses are tearfully praising how strong and powerful he is because they were all unable to stop him.
Again: it’s not for him. He’s a piece of shit beyond any possible redemption.
It’s for the victims. They deserve that.
let the world knnw he’s punished for each of them
That’s as important as anything.
Yes, justice has to be done, but it also has to be seen to be done.
Anything less further erodes the legitimacy of the legal system.
For a president. He’ll never see a prision from the inside
At his age, pretty much any prison sentence is for life.
“life” sentence for an 80yr old billionaire child rapist…
Really keeping those stakes high arent you 😆
C’mon we can do better. They did better even with Hitler to the point even his own family abandoned the name. We got room to grow on goals here.
prosecute him
former miss switzerland accuses trump of brutal rape recently. which gaffe will trump pull out of his behind this time.
God is going to invade Canada isn’t he. That’s what he does whenever there’s bad news, start another unwinnable war.
God is going to invade Canada isn’t he.
I’m really not comfortable with you calling Trump “God.” Hopefully you just think the biblical apocalypse will soon be upon us, and your lord’s wrath will begin with Canada.
That’s what he does whenever there’s bad news, start another unwinnable war.
And I guess you also think god’s legion of angels are doomed to fail against Canada’s might.
I suspect he meant to write “God, he is going to invade Canada”. Would make more sense.
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He just banned Norwegians from immigrating to the US over the Nobel Peace Prize.
I figure Switzerland can’t be far behind.
As if Norwegians would want to immigrate to the US.
I mean, life happens independent of politics. Americans will want to move to Norway. Nords will want to move to America.
People get new jobs, they meet each other and get married, they travel and fall in love with new places, they experience strife and decide to leave.
Trump’s hissyfit over falling to win a fake award for mass murderers mostly just ruins the lives of an uncountable number of other people.
I would be surprised if anyone was on the fence about Trump’s sex crimes.
You either have people who realize that he looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and are willing to treat him like a duck…
…or you have people for whom no amount of evidence could ever convince them.
He bragged about grabbing women which is assault, and we know he did worse than that, but lots of guys think they should be able to do what they want and brag about it, they’re abusers and worse. It’s part of their old boys’ club and hide crimes of each other, frats, sports, military, supernatural groups, all hide crimes of sex and others.
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A lot of people are attracted to trustworthy positions of power because of the opportunity to commit crime and the low odds of being caught and prosecuted.
people who “are not convinced” are ones who would do the same themselves given opportunity
Holiday season coming up. Remember to let your traitorous family members know they willingly supported a felon rapist pedophile just to piss off half of their fellow Americans because they can’t peel their dipshit eyes off of propaganda networks.
Never let them live this down. Or at least not for as long as we’ll all be paying for their stupid fucking decisions.
is thats why they are ramping up ice activities around this time.
I normally don’t get surprised by these things, but the fact that Trump and Epstein ran the same exact script on these kids, down to promises of admission to the same university, is eye-opening.
Same methods, same promises. All to get them to go into a room alone.
And it really makes you wonder about the people running the university / doing admissions for the university at the time as well. I wonder if they show up in the Epstein files …
You mean the spoiled rich kid who always had what he wanted with zero regards to legality or morality and only got even more aggressive at it as he grew older, the same guy who was already convicted of rape, the guy who was notoriously friends with and a frequent customer of someone who was organizing human sex trafficking, the guy who is clearly abusing his position of power to shut down any investigation in that matter… you say he might have committed more sexual assaults in his life?
How is this surprising anyone at that point?
the same guy who was already convicted of rape
I absolutely believe he is guilty of rape but Trump has never actually been convicted… yet.
He was found liable for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carol verdict.
Hopefully he’ll have rape added to his convictions before hanging for treason.
I think you’re being pedantic about the wrong word. The judge pretty directly clarified that he was proven guilty of rape. So if you want to be pedantic about the use of “convicted” I think a better phrase to use would be “adjudicated”.
The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’" Kaplan wrote. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7?op=1
I think you’re being pedantic. I was simply trying to call out that Trump has never faced criminal prosecution for rape, which convicted alludes to, but that he hopefully will soon.
https://unwall.app/www.snopes.com/news/2024/01/17/trump-convicted-of-rape/
You were being pedantic about convicted vs liable. I was suggest you instead be pedantic about adjudicated vs convicted. I don’t trust people to interpret “liable” in earnest in this context. Saying that he is an adjudicated rapist more directly states a judge [in a court of law] declared that he is guilty of rape [after being presented with evidence and testimony, without incorrectly implying that he was convicted of a criminal charge.
None of you guys are lawyers or journalists, so you all sound like idiots.
what do you think he’s going to sue you? He’s a rapist pedophile, stop splitting hairs for a pedophile or his followers. They can get fucked.
You don’t need to be a journalist of lawyer to understand the value of precise language
Plenty of people will ignore what you’re saying if you make a technical, factual error
Rapist pedophile is a fine phrase to use for the guy. The people splittin hairs or being weird about it are being disingenuous and already made up their mind that the girls are lying to ruin his career. No need to cater to those losers.
Whatever, I’m not going to argue with you about this anymore. You can say adjudicated or liable or guilty, just don’t say convicted because has has yet to face criminal charges. The dozens of victims spanning decades have yet to see justice and see this monster put on trial for his actual crimes of rape and sexual abuse.
Those people he hurt are owed justice which is why I said he hasn’t been convicted yet.
A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Judge Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
Note: the WaPo article I just quoted is footnoted in the actual Committee report the above Truthout article is about (page 4). Even the Committee report doesn’t mince words. It was rape.
And that’s what the jury found when it convicted Trump, according to the judge.
And that’s what the jury found when it convicted Trump
Might want to work on your reading comprehension. I have no doubt Trump raped E. Jean Carol, but what conviction? What criminal trial has Trump faced for any of his sex crimes?
The legal definition of the word convict is to find guilty of a crime after a trial. The common definition of the word is the same. The difference is not in the word, as you are so convinced, but in the type of trial: civil trials are by definition not trials of crime but fault and liability. The civil jury convicted Trump.
You did not say a single word about a criminal trial in the comment to which I responded.
In the words of an esteemed judge who knows far more than you (and certainly more than me) about crime, the law, and what the word convict means when properly used in a sentence, and who made that specific distinction himself, the civil jury convicted Trump.
I think you’re finding out just whose comprehension is truly lacking – and it’s not everyone else’s.
