even casual drinking increases your risk of cancers by alot. also promotes heart disease, alochol related damage, blood pressure issues. and thats where omezpic steps in, to curb alcohol abuse.
also besides alcohol is use to subdue a population from causing an uprising.
Yep, it sucks. But it turns out there’s a non-stop drip of terrible fucking news, the planet continues to get hotter with more wildfires every year, my well-paying career in software might be soon over due to the advent of AI coding, I’m working for the worst company I have ever worked for and with one of the worst bosses I’ve ever seen, the president is getting shows critical of him cancelled in order to approve sales of all major media platforms to his fascist friends (and fail sons), the cost of everything is skyrocketing, social security looks likely to collapse before I can ever collect it, and there does not appear to be any relief in sight for any of this.
Maybe I don’t need to go old and healthy at 80+.
It’s obvious that drinking isn’t good for you, but it was just as obvious that smoking isn’t good for you and that didn’t keep my grandparents from doing it until it killed them — and nicotine barely gives you any buzz at all. We all gotta go some time.
Its either you get the diseases getting drunk or get the diseases sober but from unregulated food industry.
I’m doomed. I got a new GP last month. I told her (in front of my partner) that I don’t believe we have a future and I’m going to enjoy the time I’ve got, not make changes I don’t want to make. She didn’t like it, but I think she appreciated that I wasn’t full of bs.
Eh, I quit a few years ago. When you have to have conversations with yourself about it, it’s time. So cold turkey I went, luckily NBD for me. The only time I miss it is after a really trying, long day; or I’m just craving flavors that aren’t sugary drinks like soda. I don’t like sweet drinks very much. Alcohol lends an intensity to flavors that’s impossible to replicate.
Looking back at it I’m really glad I quit.
Anyway, hopefully added years/stopped shaving years off my life. We’ll see.
What is the intensity that can’t be replicated, burn of the alcohol?
Depends. Alcohol dissolves things that normally are only fat soluble so you can get an entirely different flavour from common foods (wine and beer tastings/pairings for example)
For fermented beverages the yeast and malt make a pretty unique flavour. Same with hops in a good pale ale or IPA. There’s also the body and mouth feel that’s hard to replicate without making alcohol. Residual sugars after fermentation are also kind of unique to alcohol since you always have normal sugars mixed in with other foods.
I like flavored seltzer water.
That’s good, and just fizzy mineral water too. Luckily the NA market for more interesting adult drinks is growing, so things like fake Moscow mules, Hop Tea, or other mocktails that have interesting flavors are starting to become more widely available and have zero alcohol. Not the same as the real thing, but generally pretty good and better than soda or other sugary stuff.
While all of this is true and concerning, now is not the time to raw dog reality.
Doing weed is also bad for me. It got me quite severe health effects that I’m dealing with right now.
I’m not regretting it for a second and the second my issues are under control I’ll use weed again (in much lower doses) because living in the raw reality right now just makes you depressed and suicidal. I’m m neither, and I’ll contribute that happily to pot, it made life nice again for a few years
Right? What’s to stop one from interpreting these results as “alcohol will get you off of this dogshit timeline sooner”?
Marijuana. None of that shit, only good stuffs!!
“Poison is bad for you.”
Dose makes the poison. Water can kill you. There’s nothing wrong with alcohol.
There’s nothing wrong with alcohol.
Science says otherwise
Depends on what the alternative is. I’d prefer a beer to the water water of Flint i.e.
As someone who enjoys drinking alcohol: there’s no beneficial or harmless amount of alcohol.
Whoever this “Dose” person is we need to stop them.
I say this as someone who deeply enjoys the occasional drink: there is no known minimum safe dose of alcohol. Every drink shortens your potential lifespan.
Life is the number one cause of death.
Its the worse sexual transmissive disease.
The only cure is death.
I’ll drink to that
This is just silly. Every single thing they list can be caused by something other than alcohol except for fetal alcohol syndrome. From from the “root.”
By that logic, is it silly to say that the root issue of someone’s heart stopping was the bullet that passed through it, because a knife through the heart was the root issue that caused someone else’s heart to stop?
There’s different ways to get dementia. Alcohol consumption is the root cause of one of them, as well as 61 other diseases. If you get dementia and they run tests, they might find that the root cause of your dementia is alcohol consumption. They might find it’s a different toxic substance you were exposed to, or they might find it was genetic. That’s the root cause of your dementia. The study and article obviously aren’t saying that alcohol is the root cause of everyone’s dementia, or the 61 other diseases it causes.
It is saying that someone who wouldn’t have otherwise dealt with dementia or 61 other diseases could get them purely due to alcohol consumption, making it the root cause of their disease.
« Could » is the word. It literally means: we don’t know. It stays an assumption.
BTW, was Paracelsus considered in the study?
The amount of alcoholics in comment sections like this is crazy.
Half of the people are basically saying “I’d rather die that stop alcohol”, the other half tries to cope by saying that all of these things about the dangers of alcohol are either false or exaggerated.
Even the crazy meat lovers are not that extreme.
Even the crazy meat lovers are not that extreme.
You rang? We don’t love meat - we love being healthy.
There are many parallels between the addiction of alcohol and carbohydrates, we are very sympathetic to anyone who struggles with addiction.
Are you referring to the comments ITT or the comments on the linked post? I read through all of the comments here and only saw one or two comments that seemed to line up with your implications.
I see a bunch. It’s possible that ml got blocked by them or the comments haven’t yet federated
This isn’t surprising given how rooted alcohol is in our culture. A social lubricant they often call it. I think peer pressure was the hardest thing I had to deal with when I quit.
because alcohol is the basis of society itself
Crazy meat lovers most certainly are that extreme. Addicts are at least a bit more likely to admit they have a problem.
It’s the cause of 100% of my arguments and misunderstandings, haha.
Owning a gun makes you 12-times more likely to die from a gunshot.
Yep, and having a pool in your backyard makes you 12-times more likely to die from drowning.
Gotta go sometime and I’d rather do it having enjoyed a little bit of wine
On the other hand, why do you think we gave up the hunter/gatherer life style?
Cultivating grapes for wine and grain for beer was the origin of civilization!
The oldest recipe we have found was a recipe for beer.
I hate that alcohol, such an obvious health detriment, is so ingrained in culture that people don’t even question it… Your link makes it worse!
Like the link points out, we were drinking before we had written language.
It’s a matter of dealing with life on life’s terms. The reality is that people like drinking. Sometimes people drink too much, and a few unlucky folks can’t drink anything without risking death.
I ocne read a story about a Vietnam era war correspondent. He was a pacifist before going to cover combat and seeing combat up close made him hate war even more.
At one point a publisher asks him to contribute an article that ‘deglamorizes war.’
He wrote back that deglamorizing war would be as easy as deglamorizing sex.
Let’s fire up a peace pipe with tobacco then!
/j
Cool, let’s. /nj
I hate that existence, such an obvious health detriment, is so ingrained in culture that people don’t even question it…
Thankfully we haven’t progressed since then!
With one important difference: Wine was often diluted back then and beer was not as strong as it is today, so it was much less dangerous on the whole, and it was so weak that even children drank it instead of the terrible water of the time. Though they also drank water when it was good.
Less strong, but since they drank beer instead of water overall consumption was higher. Lots of people should still drink less though.
Yeah! It was seen as an everyday good feeling healthy thing back then and not just something to get wasted on, though that happened a lot too. I’d take the ancient mindset of moderation over today’s alcohol addicted society anyday.
Not sure it was so much about good feeling. From what I read it was more about booze being less likely to grant you a plague debuff than water back in the days.
It’s almost certainly both. It’s not like alcohol is the only drug humans have used. Most do not have that justification, yet they’re still used.
So you’re telling me without alcohol I could have spent my life picking berries before I died of a toothache at 25? And instead I’m reading excel sheets and will die a prolonged death after years of chemo at 85?
Damn alcohol really is the cause of all my problems…
The “dying at 25” thing is the result of a common misrepresentation of data. Infant mortality rates were significantly higher in the past, so the average gets thrown off. But, if you remove those data points (to reflect post-infancy mortality), you’d be living roughly the same amount of time.
No one is forcing you to brush your teeth.
True, but its illegal for me to wander my neighborhood and pick berries from “private property”
Realistically, if you eat out of trash cans you’ll have the same experience, and if you’re quiet and neat, no one will report you.
Found the racoon
We prefer “opportunistic omnivore” but yes
Good thing someone else did the work long ago, so I don’t need to keep drinking it.
Back when life expectancy was 45.
Popular misconception.
There were a lot of people who never made it out of childhood, which skews the average down.
But if you made it to adulthood, you had a pretty good chance of making it to 65 or so.
That’s how averages work. Math.
Damn, glad I quit drinking.
(Hits vape pen.)
(/s, just in case it wasn’t clear.)
Glad I quit drinking and am currently quitting the vape pens.
Right on, it took some doing but I’m glad I quit nicotine. It’s worth it!
