So women can’t go to university and receive a medical degree, and men can not give women medical attention? My heart goes out to Afghan women.
Let’s look where the Taliban get their funding
Oh would you look at that… Exactly what everyone expected…
Yea, so obvious no one knows what you’re trying to imply.
Aren’t the Taliban broke, because Karzai spent two decades bankrupting the county while president?
Biden releases $7bn in frozen Afghan funds to split between 9/11 families and aid This article is more than 4 years old
Money would go toward humanitarian efforts for Afghan people (spoilers: this never materialized) and to US victims of terrorism, keeping it out of hands of Taliban
The last thing the US did before leaving was to clean out the country’s foreign currency reserves. This resulted in an enormous famine, skyrocketing child mortality, and a string of infrastructure failures as foreign trade ground to a halt.
Very similar to what the US did in Iraq and Libya after officially withdrawing.
Do NOT defend this for being “a cultural thing.” Healthcare is one of the few cases where Islam explicitly goes “ignore the whole halal/haram thing for a while.” It’s plain sexism. They are oppressing women.
Women are also forbidden from becoming doctors. So, healthcare is illegal for women.
#JustConservativeThings
Aren’t the few existing female doctors still able to practice? Or did they get banned now?
The Taliban banned them. It is illegal for women to practice medicine now.
This isn’t conservative, it’s regressive.
Roe v Wade would like a word
What exactly do you think conservatives are “conserving”?
Power.
The status quo. The Democrats are the current conservative party. They’re doing everything they can to not allow any change.
We don’t know that yet. The election just happened
Hakeem Jefferies is already throwing winnable votes to MAGA Republicans in the House
Religion is so fucking stupid.
Religion is a convenient excuse for what people were going to do anyway.
I don’t think normal people of any particular inclination would ban women from being treated by male doctors while also banning women from becoming doctors. For something that insane, you need religion.
The escalating bans are reaching new heights of absurdity, with officials in Balkh province in northern Afghanistan banned from calling female patients by their actual names. In May, officials reportedly ordered all hospitals, private practices and clinics to use the word “Bibi” instead of women’s names. They emphasised that this instruction must be observed even on medical prescriptions.
The other absurd restrictions notwithstanding, this feels like such a complete lack of respect for women’s personhood, humanity, existence even. Fuck the Taliban.
In most provinces, male doctors have also received orders and directives from the Taliban instructing them not to examine female patients. The doctors say they are not allowed to examine or provide emergency care to female patients, except under specific conditions – such as the presence of a female patient’s male guardian (mahram), or having certain procedures performed by female nurses.
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“I don’t know what kind of situation this is. In a city where not a single female doctor can be found, how can they impose so many restrictions? Human life has no importance to them at all,” one patient told the Guardian and Zan Times.
These fucking asshole dickheads. I really fucking hate this.
In answer to the woman being quoted: it’s because they don’t regard her as human, only property. That is ever the logic of patriarchy; Afghanistan just does it to extreme.
Will certainly not be a problem if a populations females are suddendly dying to stuff solved since medieval times. There will be a population decline and a male overhang in a few years.
Then you’ll get a society, full of angry, religious old men who are definitely not fucking eachother
Men fucking men is against Islamic law. Men fucking boys however…
I’ll be fair and say bacha bazi is controversial in Afghanistan, but it definitely happens.
bacha bazi is controversial
You mean illegal right? It carries the death penalty under Taliban.
And yet, if you keep reading that same article it says it still happens.
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Which leads to more war. Great.
Maybe it does, but good luck furnishing your army without women to bear you soldiers.
That’s the problem. Too many men results in them going to war and dying
True. Countries that abort female fetuses have a gender imbalance that is handled by importing women, ethically or unethically.
Mpreg it is then.
I am appalled at both the stupidity of this restriction and the reaction of the religion haters who jump on this.
Like, suddenly Afghanistan has become the only Muslim country representative of the faith and the other 96% of the Muslims who have always admitted patients regardless of their gender don’t count.
If you can’t see that this decision is cultural and uses religion as an excuse then you have some reflecting to do. Criticize these idiots, not the religion.
I am sympathetic and agree that Islamic extremism is too readily taken to represent Islam broadly. However the argument that this is more “cultural” than “religious” doesn’t quite work for Afghanistan because it is actually a true theocracy where the clergy govern and hold ultimate political power. So there’s no “non-religion” entity that’s merely using religion. In this case, government policy and religious dictates are one and the same.
I wouldn’t say the religion in question is quite the same religion practiced by most other Muslims, more an extreme denomination
No. Criticize these assholes AND religion. It’s a cudgel used worldwide.
I get that part of it is a religious thing, but I literally don’t understand how this makes any sense at all unless suffering is the point. Why would they make things worse for people if they were allowed to do these things before? It accomplishes nothing. I really don’t think this is going to make people rally in support of the government.
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It’s pretending to be a religious thing.
unless suffering is the point.
Catholics just nod and sigh.
for all those who wanted america out of afghanistan glad you got your wish 😔
This is happening because the US invaded Afghanistan.
Unless the plan was to make Afghanistan the 51st state, this was always going to be the result.
In no case has any state been better because of US intervention. Ever.
I’d argue South Korea is much better off than North Korea. That’s the result of US intervention
Whose currency collapses every two years and whose people are worked to collapse. Yeah. Ok.
SK is much better, but because the bar is knocking the freaking floor… West germany?
Does the civil war count?
No
Why not? Would the south have been better under the Confederacy?
We got that anyway, and slavers got reparations.
The Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 96 until the US invaded. Now they’re back in power.
And how and why were they able to obtain power in '96? Because of prior imperial meddling!
The Taliban wouldn’t have been able to stay in power with policies like this if they’d been in power for those entire 30 years. Eventually they’d have collapsed under the contradictions or reformed to be less restrictive.
Prior meddling from the Soviet Union.
Didn’t sowjet union invade afghanistan specifically to counter this medieval idiots?
Mujahedeen iirc, also CIA funded and trained.
And Saudi (which really is just an extension of the US) supporting resistance fighters like Osama Bin Laden.
Good thing that imperial boomerang never came back!
are the women in saudi covered up because of the us as well?
Yes? Do you think kingdom of Saudi Arabia would still exist if it weren’t for the US? The US props this stuff up all over West Asia.
No, this isn’t happening just because of that. It’s happening because of religion. Nothing more nothing less. What the USSR and the US did over there doesn’t excuse what the religious are doing to it now.
All their neighbors have the same religion, why are they different?
The obvious difference between Afghanistan and their neighbors is they were invaded and occupied. It isn’t an “excuse” but simply an explanation. Reactionary policy like this is a reaction to imperialism; without invasion and prior meddling the Taliban wouldn’t have the political support to implement a policy this backwards.
This won’t last in the long run, a policy like this will collapse their country. Either their population will start to crater as half their population is unable to go to the doctor, or women and the people who love them will start picking up guns. Reactionaries can’t actually reproduce society, it’s always a circular firing squad with them.
Most of their neighbors who are ruled by religious fanatics are the same…the Saudis we are allies with and they’re bad with women’s rights as well. What’s your excuse there? We’ve never bombed them.
Stop defending religious extremist with “well they have been bombed”…most countries on the planet have been invaded or bombed or been at war at one point or another.
Ukraine is actively being invaded and they don’t seem to be taking women back to the stone age.
Just stop with the excuses.
The US props them up!
No the Saudis have oil money they don’t need our money.
But that doesn’t explain your point that Afghanistan is a place that is ultra conservative towards Basically anyone but a man…you said they’re like that because of the US bombing them. The Saudis are just as bad towards women’s rights and we don’t bomb them…so what’s your excuse for their treatment of women?
Who do you think went in and paid so much for that oil and facilitated a wahabist rise? Santa?
That’s rather a limited consideration of all the factors.
Universally, the more rural places are, the more religious conservative they are. The poorer a place is the more strongly religious people are. The more chaotic the situation is, the more strongly people turn to religion (or other existential anchors). This is true even in developed countries. Cities are liberal/blue, and rural areas are conservative/red.
The poorer a place is the more strongly religious people are.
Do you think places are poor by accident?
In the case of Afghanistan this, too, is imperialism. Underdevelopment is a policy decision, and they know whose fault it is.
Yeah, we shouldn’t be blind to the harm imperialism and colonialism has done (and continues to do in places like Syria) to the world… I just don’t think that’s always the only reason for everything, though it certainly is a major reason for a lot of things.
Everything comes down to the material conditions. It’s not all imperialism specifically, development in rural areas is simply difficult in general, but the only way to sustain a backwards reactionary force like the Taliban is through intentional impoverishment.
Without that, I suspect Afghanistan might look more like Iran. Perhaps still conservative, not backwards.
There’s nothing more binary in geo politics than an idiot.
