To predict the future we must look at the past:
- “Will the Jan 6 hearing recommend criminal charges for Trump?”
- “No.”
- “Will Biden direct his AG to prosecute Trump.”
- “No. In fact the AG should be a republican!”
- “Will democrats push Biden to get an AG who will prosecute Trump for Jan 6?”
- “No.”
- “Will democrats push Biden to prosecute Trump for stealing and hoarding classified documents?”
- “No.”
- “Will Biden revoke top security clearance of Trump election rigger and enemy saboteur Elon Musk for having secret meetings with V. Putin?”
- “No. Let’s tariff Chinese solar panels because solar panels are spies now.”
- “Will democrats stonewall the funding and creation of Trumps Nazi ICE army?”
- “Thank you ICE!”
In a democracy Biden shouldn’t attempt to influence any action against Trump. That’s the job of the Justice Department. Trump has made political judicial activism so normal that people just expect this kind of political interference.
No. They will not.
Hakeem is secretly meeting Kushner
AIPAC Dems are funding AIPAC Republicans over DSA candidates
Here is Tammy duckworth
https://youtu.be/Cm53m1L4Vas?is=tylEWtlOOoOuycnv
They won’t do anything and there will just be show trials with a new mueller/smith and a whole lot of “aww we just missed the margin for the vote, make sure you vote HARDER”
any democrat that isnt campaigning on 100% unfucking what Trump did, is a democrat in service to the republican agenda.
and its especially galling hearing someone like duckworth say shit like “well, we shouldnt be impeaching, and maybe we can kinda sorta maybe undo a fragment of what he did, perhaps by chance, because i think benefitting the american people means appeasing trump.”
Hate to say it, but there won’t be a candidate working for Team Defuck. Democrats capitulate. They are the Party of Bygones.
They can see how broken it is, but in their minds justifying not fixing it because of the effort it will take is easier than owning the problem and forming a solution.
i feel like the democrats used up the next 40 years of effort getting the Obamacare passed.
On purpose, to give Wall St the bonanza profits the ACA created, and to ensure that they have at least one. Maybe two generations of shushing anyone who wants to agitate for a single payer system by whinging about “defending the ACA” instead of actually doing anything their donors might not like.
yep, its really all the voters fault.
/s
In a sense, yes. Fool me once and all that.
I would think they would automatically start the impeachment proceedings. If they don’t, I think it answers the bigger question “Was there only one party all along? If so, is it the billionaire class that is steering the ship for us?”.
The capital class holds all the cards. Their wishes will be done regardless of which of the two parties has power.
They’re just the modern version of the ruling class. They’ve always dominated since the dawn of civilization. Socialist movements have attempted to overthrow the capital class with varying degrees of success.
There will always be a ruling class. I’d just prefer if it were the working class.
The impeachment process is broken. Its like a referee throwing a flag on the play against “the red team” and then asking “the red team” players if there was really a violation and if a penalty should be applied.
It was intentionally designed to be super difficult to impeach a sitting president, as the founders wanted to maintain political stability and discourage witch hunting by the majority party in Congress.
The problem is, it serves to maintain political inefficiencies. It creates lame-duck governments that accomplish nothing. The “stability” is just maintaining the status quo, and we’re stuck with incompetent or corrupt presidents for their entire term, as well as an inefficient, useless Congress. A lot of damage can be done in four years.
Personally, I think it needs to be a lot easier, like how other countries can oust a PM at any time for incompetence and/or corruption.
If establishment Dems gain a majority this midterm, we’re stuck with another lame-duck government for two more years, as it’s not a veto-proof majority that can impeach or make constitutional amendments.
That’s why I think the DSA are a good thing. Their platform includes abolishing the Senate. That would be a tremendous advance in making government more efficient at getting things done.
They should, but they won’t.
They already did twice. What do you want?
Meaningful consequences
Then you want to talk to the Republicans. Because unless the Senate goes like 60% Democrat and the coalition votes to convict, there’s nothing they can do to secure a conviction.
Yeah… There is so much more they could do (which I mentioned).
But the whole campaign strategy is to court MAGAs and conservatives while pissing on the progressive left. This means that they won’t do anything. They are also all AIPAC so, they won’t do it because of that either.
They could hold up procedures and other government functions in protest, (like tooberville did with military promotions), they don’t ever do anything.
How’d that work out?
We’ll the first impeachment you had four centrists that voted against impeachment in various ways and had one centrist not only vote against it, they also switched to the Republican party.
So…. Not well.
I’m terms of centrist not cocking up things? No, I can’t say thay it went very well there.
I’m terms of the impeachment being successful and getting 55% approval and then having a record turnout in the 2020 election? Is day they were successful.
The republicans refused to convict, twice. Democrats tried twice and it didn’t work. They will do it again and the senate will still not convict.
I’m really confused by the reasoning here and why people act like I’m saying something wrong. It’s almost like the democrats have to be punished extra because of the republicans being unwilling to hold trump to account.
The point is, impeachment doesn’t do shit. No one will convict him. How much proof do you need to finally come to terms with the fact that he and his foreign handlers fucking own America.
It’s over dude. There wil be no reckoning. He will never face justice. Just accept it.
I have always believed that there will be no justice. The question was about whether democrats would impeach and that has been the only thing i have responded to.
It doesn’t really matter. There’s your answer.
You’re projecting your nihilism something fierce and genuinely being a dick to others because of how you feel right this moment.
Can we also impeach and remove Vance too?
The entire Terrorist Party needs to be dismantled. Anything short of this is a total failure of democrats and the concept of democracy.
Will they? Yes.
Will it matter? No.
If they can actually get an impeachment through it’d be one of the most significant moments in American political history.
They’ve already impeached him twice.
I mean, why not? They’re great at hollow showmanship that does nothing meaningful, it’s their bread and butter!
Probably multiple times.
If we don’t come down hard on these clowns, we are gonna be up to our balls in jugglers!
(And they can forget about the general if they don’t put the hammer down after midterms)
They should, just because that’s the tool they’re explicitly supposed to use to curb an of of control executive, but I also don’t particularly care about them doing it. It’s a box to check and a media spectacle to give them an opportunity to highlight the abuses, which they’ll probably flub, but it’s also not particularly important.
What I want from a Democratic Congress is them to say “no” on everything, pass good governance laws he’ll have to veto, and to use congressional subpoenas to compel testimony to put all the crimes and corruption and inhumanity on the record. Because I don’t think there’s a way to meaningfully provide justice in the next two years, but I want bringing them to justice in two years to be the driving goal.
Oh, and zero out funding for ICE and the CBP. Let them coast on the giant pile of money the Republicans gave them. Not one cent more from Democrats. That’s a message that will motivate me. Not more promises of performance.
Maybe impeachment makes people feel better, but it practically does fuck all.
Every US impeachment in history ended in senate acquittal. It’s bullshit for the simps.
(Dick Nixon was not impeached).
If anyone believes they actually will, I have a brand-new shiny perfect example of how we got here to begin with that I’ll sell for a reasonable sum.
I mean they already voted for impeachment twice
And remind me…. How’d that turn out?
The question is will they impeach him a third time, not will he be removed from office. You’re saying they won’t impeach him a third time. I think they will. To answer your question, nothing came of it. But that’s not the question the article is asking
So…. We’re asking wether or not a pointless and ineffective thing will, or will not happen- and just ignoring the entire point that wether it does or doesn’t- won’t matter in the least, but will cost a fuck ton of time, effort and taxpayer money for no good reason.
Do I understand this correctly?
I mean yeah that’s literally the question in the article
No, it’s not. It’s just asking the typical sensationalist copium bullshit. It doesn’t ask why they’re bothering since it’s meaningless.
Yes they are asking the typical sensational bullshit. Correct. The headline is literally “If Democrats Win Control of Congress in the Midterms, Will They Impeach Trump a Third Time?”. Your first comment was no they won’t, and I’m saying they have already done it 2 times before, and I’m assuming they will do it again… No one ever said it would do any good or if he would be removed from office.
Trump is the last one to go for:
- Hegseth (Probably easiest to get momentum with)
- Roberts, Alito and Blanche (Restablish rule of law)
Then Trump and Vance.
What the hell else could be the point of winning control of Congress? Putting trump in a cell is the last hope for American democracy (if any such hope exists).
Cell? Try the guillotine.
