As of this week, half of the states in the U.S. are under restrictive age verification laws that require adults to hand over their biometric and personal identification to access legal porn.
Missouri became the 25th state to enact its own age verification law on Sunday. As it’s done in multiple other states, Pornhub and its network of sister sites—some of the largest adult content platforms in the world—pulled service in Missouri, replacing their homepages with a video of performer Cherie DeVille speaking about the privacy risks and chilling effects of age verification.
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Everyone who ever submits for age verification will have their information stolen. It is a matter of when, not if.
I mean, a VPN is way cheaper than whatever hoops Idaho wants you to jump through to watch some 10/10 goth hottie get their ass eaten.
Yea, but soon we’ll have no states to vpn to, and we will have to start using the Quebec servers, then all the websites will be in French and I’ll have to learn a new language.
Omelette du fromage. Omelette du fromage!
I VPN to Montreal servers. Everything is still displayed in English.
Your response is also supposed to be legally in French.
Interesting…all of it? I’m in Ontario but my hub/ISP is in Quebec so all my random advertising is in French.
Somehow it knows to target advertising to you in English…maybe you need to work on your privacy?
I’ve got a lot of privacy stuff, but I also know that I’m being tracked. I’m not using the VPN for privacy though. I’m using it to watch porn, so I don’t really care. If I did want privacy there’s a lot of things I could improve, but I’m not that worried about it.
As for the targeted advertising, I don’t see any of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if that were in French but I wouldn’t know.
Yeah…I don’t really know what I’m talking about…it’s not like I make much of an effort for privacy. I’m guess it’s just my particular ISP. It’s like…the random advertising is in French…but if they know who I am it’s targeted…it’s mixed.
Languages accepted by the user is like the second header in http. It’s in all your requests.
soon we’ll have no states to vpn to
I’ve yet to see any state legislature take that proposal seriously. Unlike trying to make porn sites take your credit card info in advance (a policy they hated so much gosh darn it!) you’re really fucking with the money when you try and regulate VPNs. Also, just… not really that practical. For the same reason Congress has been pretty toothless when it comes to regulating Torrents and digital encryption, going after VPNs at the regulatory level is something of a technological rabbit hole.
then all the websites will be in French
Nothing will ever make anyone on the internet learn a language other than English.
I’ve yet to see any state legislature take that proposal seriously
snekerpimp meant if every state requires ID, then VPN to another state will not get around the ID check.
Setting aside the fact that there’s no appetite for these laws in liberal states because its purely a conservative fetish, you can still get porn on the internet without going to the big corporate online clearinghouses.
FFS, there was porn on Napster back in the day.
There’s no appetite for these laws in the voter public of any state, as far as I can tell given how VPN usage skyrockets in every state where these laws are put in place. Is California no longer liberal? Also consider the people running sites in any of the states that have such a law. They may resort to just blanket ID-checking everyone rather than risk prosecution.
There’s no appetite for these laws in the voter public of any state
Evangelical right-wing states have a huge contingent of politicians who compete with one another to be the toughest on “child sex trafficking” and other Epstein-tangential topics. So, in the GOP primary, you get a lot of promises about how you’re going to round up all the pedos and put them to the sword or whatever. And this inevitably manifests as “please insert your dick into this pepper grinder to access the pornography” laws, as a sort-of practical compromise.
Is California no longer liberal?
Current Status: Failed (2024-08-15: In committee: Held under submission.)
Looks like they’re retaining their title. That said, if you peak under the “Supporters and Opponents” what you’re going to see in the Supporters section is a litany of right-wing evangelical organizations and a couple of mega-corps.
They may resort to just blanket ID-checking everyone rather than risk prosecution.
The current strategy appears to be refusing to host content in the regulated states. Even then, there are plenty of social media and general content distribution channels that dodge the regulation by claiming to be content-blind in how they serve their data. I don’t see Facebook or YouTube getting the business end of any of these regulations. Almost as though they’re toothless if you’ve got enough money to tip your Congresscritters.
Napster was audio only. Did you mean limewire, or kazaa, or one of the many napster clones that came after?
Napster was audio only.
It was file type specific and had a soft file side limit, but that’s easy enough to work around.
Did you mean limewire, or kazaa, or one of the many napster clones that came after?
They all had it as well, yes
… and then all that will be left will be .onion sites
This is the plan all along. It’s not about porn, it’s not even about control. It’s about teaching Americans a second language. You know who’s behind this? Duolingo and Big Language.
Is there a French version of /c/ich_iel?
I can only assume it would be something like !moi_evv if it existed.
because you actually watch porn for the plot?
Heh. I’m in Ontario, but I guess my DNS is outta Quebec…so most of my banner/insert advertising is in French. It’s fucking awesome because I have no idea what they’re saying or advertising to me most of the time. Highly recommend.
States are also considering banning VPNs now as well. This will never work and is a horrible idea, but it’s being considered.
States are also considering banning VPNs now as well.
Well, some legislators have proposed taking wack-a-mole to the next level and demanding all VPNs be certified and regulated. But good luck getting that passed through the Silicon Valley Presidency or the Ancap Courts.
I would count on them being hypocritical. The rich will just use Starlink.
StarLink connections still exit on the ground, sometimes in a different state. You could gain access or get denied pron based on where your ground IP ends up.
Yeah then Elon can blackmail them instead of someone else
As a watcher from the outside:
It might not be fun to hear but vpn is neither the solution to government oppression nor a solution against tracking (recently there was a good article regarding that) so all you do is pay more.
Welp, now I’m off to XHamster. Thank a ton >B|
Ironically? If we were a less prudish society this genuinely wouldn’t matter.
“Oh no! Sarah likes threesome porn. Uhm… okay?”
I don’t think that’s the main reason folks are concerned about having their government IDs stolen.
Yeah, people already browse porn with zero privacy precautions, so linking their fetishes to them would be trivial. The main concern is having yet another privacy vulnerability vector for identity theft.
And there are so many of those these days that a new one genuinely doesn’t matter.
If you haven’t been offered a free year of identity theft insurance recently? Some company/org is plugging their ears.
SSNs are a fundamentally broken system (look it up). Photo IDs? I will guarantee you that if you go to ANY city there is someone at the DMV who will look up whatever you want for fifty bucks. The ONLY reason credit card fraud is less massive than it is (and it is MASSIVE) is because the CC companies put in the effort to monitor that and lock it down.
EVERYONE should have their credit records locked unless they are actively applying for something.
No. the issue with these is that we live in an increasingly christofacist society where even looking at porn makes you Unclean. And if you look at the wrong porn? Off to the reeducation camps with you!
Um, having direct access to pull my government photo ID is a huge deal. Lots of online services require photo ID or other more in-depth verification to pull loans and stuff. So yes, this new vector IS a serious concern.
And paying someone $50 at any DMV? C’mon, man, that sounds like some unfounded bullshit. Hardly anyone is going to risk a cushy government job with solid benefits and great hours for fucking $50, let alone the potential risk of going to jail.
Your “government photo ID” really isn’t all that useful unless people are skilled enough to make fakes (which is a whole different mess). What matters is your SSN, your credit card number, your address, etc.
And those are basically everywhere.
As for the DMV thing: You sweet summer child.
As for the DMV thing: You sweet summer child.
Lol, dude, I’m in my early 40s. Go to the DMV and try bribing a government official and report back. Please. I beg of you.
this “you’d have to make a fake to use it!!” argument is especially ridiculous when you’ve posted on a story about submitting a picture of your photo ID in place of a physical one. and one of the pieces of info you say actually “matters” is literally written on said ID
You’re living in a movie.
It’s not really about the porn in the first place (for advertisers it is - they hate sex unless it’s selling their product). The porn is merely an avenue to attack another minority group. In this case, LGBTQ people. Make everything about them sexual in some way, and then ban them from life for sexual deviancy.
yeah I barely can bring myself to give like Fidelity or Charles Schwab photos of my ID, just even having a digital image of my ID on my computer feels wrong lol
I just went through fun trying to explain to a company that my company is a contractor for why I wouldn’t be scanning my passport and emailing it to them.
Oui Oui, on my face…
That will protect the children, for sure.
If I lived in the US, I’d be far more concerned about sending my kids to school but whatever.
Also church. I wouldn’t want them to get diddled by a pastor.
Sure, but that is more of a Christian church problem over a US one. There are plenty of cases where I’m from too, and also a few recent scandals with private Catholic school, so I’d tend to shit on the Vatican rather than the US on that particular one.
I just can’t imagine thinking my children could get shot every time they go to school.
US Public Schools messed with me so much, partially contributed to my depression (amongst various other factors)
Damn, I’m sorry to hear. I have seen a couple of your posts around, and yeah, let’s say I know this struggle.
It can get better, I hope it does for you.
The end game here is to require ID for social media in order to suppress dissent. This is an easy first step due to the longstanding controversy surrounding pornography.
It’s all about control.
Keep this shit up and I’ll have to go back to having sex with my wife.
We’ll all have to go back to having sex with your wife
In Soviet Russia, wife fucks you!
…wait, what?
That was in fact one of the original propositions of communism.
I’ll fuck yours, if you fuck mine. That’s how that works, right?
Sharing is caring.
Yikes! You dug her up just to get a piece?
I mean, far be it from me to kink shame, so…to each their own, I guess.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thats gay cause your actually having sex with every man/woman that she did it with
Yeah, yeah, straight heterosexual intercourse is gay or something. I guess?
But the real question is - who fucking cares?
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Lol I’m referencing a meme I saw this week on Lemmy, it was an Andrew Tate tweet saying anybody with a girlfriend is gay in 2025. Obviously I don’t care that you’re straight kudos to you
Lol, sorry, I should’ve added an ‘/s’ on my reply!
No, I got it, just was being way too sarcastic for text.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: I ain’t straight. Or gay, or bi, or pan. Fuck labels, man! I don’t fit into their tidy little boxes, and why should any of us?!?
Hey, if you can get her to do it, more power to ya.
I’m already fucking your wife. But if this goes through, she wont have income and will have to fuck you. I liked being her big black bull.
Dude, I thought we were just out here making jokes and you come through with whatever that was.
Hey, give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he’s never interacted with humans before.
It was a joke. A bad one…but a joke.
Hey, part of growing and learning is understanding that failure is only a step in the process. Keep at it, brother. When making jokes, I always try to remember this: “If you’re going to be offensive, make sure you are more funny than you are offensive. Just being offensive isn’t funny.”
Now get back in there and make some god damn jokes.
Lol thanks
It was just a bit much with the different aspects of it
I would like to dispute the primary supposition here that pornography is harmful. The use of pornography is nearly universal, and most of the harms that it supposedly causes are symptoms of other issues, or are invented to impose control of sexuality. The ability to reach out with the power of the law to impose religious edicts or project sexual hangups is one of the most esoteric, yet effective, forms of political control available other than violence. If you can control the way that people express their sexuality, you can probably also control their views through the monetization and restriction of sex.
Sexuality and privacy are human rights, and the creation of and access to pornography is protected by the first and fourth amendments under which so-called “age verification” is an unnecessary and excessive burden. If the idea is to prevent access to children, ask yourself why now all adults must now have their access prevented or interrupted.
Furthermore, it is not the state’s role to control childhood sexual development, and the idea that porn is harmful to minors is debatable at best and dubious at worst. Access to objectionable material is solely at the discretion of parents. The fact that they cannot effectively manage this is a symptom of another problem.
When Meta shows teenage girls makeup ads after they delete their selfies, or streaming apps are flooded with violent movies that are easily accessible to minors, this is acceptable. But when I want to watch porn it’s now my job to “protect minors” by compromising my privacy and security?
The real “danger” here is the availability of ideas that do not align with state power.
Never thought I would live to see this day. Utterly pathetic. I remember even 20 years ago online censorship was extremely taboo.
Making it easy for normies to get online was a massive blunder.
Yeah, I will never show my ID to a fucking porn site, get real
I’m just over here in “hellscape” California enjoying the freedom to not have to do this, and I can walk down the street to the weed shop, and my girlfriend still has basic human rights over her own body.
Do any other states, like Texas, need some of our freedom? We’ve got some to spare.
I think California recently passed the Digital Age Assurance Act, which was backed by Google,Meta, and OpenAI. I think it goes into effect in 2027.
Just to be clear, because I had to look into it a bit, California’s law won’t require photos/IDs.
“Operating system providers need not collect additional information like photos of government IDs to verify the user’s age. Based on this age information, operating system providers must send digital signals via real-time API (age signals) to developers upon request, transmitting the user’s age range bracket – under 13, at least 13 and under 16, at least 16 and under 18, or at least 18. When a user downloads and launches a developer’s application, the developer must request an age signal from the relevant operating system provider or the application store from which the user downloaded the application.”
So I’m assuming those companies backed it because they want more analytics about the age ranges of the people who use their products.
They already know the age of their users… They bloody well know. They backed that bill because it gives them a legal leg to bully out smaller 3rd parties and solidify their respective monopolies.
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Why hasn’t California, become an Island already, like they taught me in school with earthquakes? I’m just waiting for more dispensaries to carry Shrooms because currently lockout of getting any from Canada right now because well, they hate America’s with the tariffs. I have a few local selections they just have more variety.
Yes, we do.
But when people in blue states get something, they stop caring about whether anyone else has it.
*half of the us requires you to “visit” iceland to watch porn
Still allowed for now. 6 months tops?
Right right, block the VPNs and destroy corporate infrastructure and WfH, and then everyone will just use more torrent clients or stream from international servers. It’s all good, my friend.
They could just make VPN only illegal for peasants.
Then we’re back to FTP sites and fServes.
Then I start renting private vpses out as vpns to coomers.
The most important issue facing the world: Someone might be jerking off in the privacy of their own home.
Porn is just the foot in the door to force ID for connecting to the Internet. This is techno-fascist dystopian police-state shit, and the “don’t tread on me” crowd is just bending over and saying “Please, sir, may I have another? No lube this time!”
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Watch them retreat once Grindr states that due to increasing safeguards and transparency, all of their files will be released to the public.
I’ll end up becoming an artist and drawing my own porn before I give my ID to a website to view it.
All this actually does is push people to porn sites outside of Missouri’s jurisdiction and/or sites that don’t give a fuck about being “legitimate businesses” or whatever. It’s effectively prohibition and the outcome will be the same.
This shit never actually makes anyone safer, it just draws more normal users to seedier parts of the internet.
Luckily enough I have a rich imagination and I can wank without any porn.
Local jogging track is great for expanding my imagination
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Can’t stop my imagination GoVeRnMeNt! I’ll masturbate to all those geriatric fucks.
The death of freedoms by the day.
I’m not against proper age verifications as such, it would be like carding people in a store or a bar. But I just haven’t seen an implementation of it that isn’t prone to being a privacy nightmare and surveillance state shit.
I know there’s some systems that generate a token that verify that you are 18 and you give that to the site, so neither side directly meet so to say. The site knows only that you have a valid token for being 18 and the app or service you use to generate the token knows just that you wanted to token for something. I think Spain was figuring out a system like that.
Is there any organized fight against this? I feel like open access to porn is something people can get behind (pun intended).
People could literally put porn in everything until it’s reversed and put their red state into porn overload. They could slip porn between the pages of the newspaper,or drop a copy of bad babysitters 5 in every DVD player in best buy at the same time. They could mass mail stills from 2 girls 1 cup, goetse, and blue waffle to their Congress people. They can wear the raunchiest t-shirts they can find and pack a town hall. These assholes already created a climate where woman are (understandably) even more afraid to have sex, now they want to lock down porn too. I’m not a degenerate because I watch porn; I’m a degenerate because I in ironically enjoyed Spongknob Squarenuts. But degenerate or not, I believe freedom of inquiry is important and I want to know exactly what she If you are gonna strip people of their economic output, abuse workers, stifle culture and art, etc, you at least have to give people a blowoff valve somehow. Reading the Bible after a double shift at work isn’t gonna get anyone hard except maybe JD Vance and it probably still comes second to furniture warehouse ads.
Fuck these assholes.
drop a copy of bad babysitters 5 in every DVD player in best buy
Soooooo, 0 dvd players? Best Buy stopped carrying physical media years ago.
What? They still sell DVD players: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/blu-ray-dvd-players/dvd-players/abcat0102005.c?id=abcat0102005
They stopped selling Bad Babysitters years ago also.
As someone who hasn’t been in a Best Buy in over 15 years… What the fuck do they sell then?
Organized? You mean like The Pirate Bay? We have had the tools for decades, my friend.
This is why I remain on one social media site. You are my people.
Fight against what? I’m on coomer and nothing is blocked. Looks good to me.
