“No one, whether you’re trans or not, wants the federal government digging through your identifiable patient information and figuring out what they like and don’t like,” Hack said. “It’s an absolute overreach, and people are really scared.”
Asked whether Hack’s priorities were measures he could support, Platner agreed. “Yes, indeed. They most certainly do,” he said.
Archery requires arm strength which gives the advantage to males. Sports which are seemingly not dependent on gender might be. Note that most chess players are male.
There exists XX male syndrome. Such a person is not really female.
Even if trans women athletes take female hormones, she would still have an advantage over biological women. Male hips are small in relation to their shoulders whereas female hips are wide. This gives males an advantage in running since their hands can efficiently move up and down.
We are only discussing males who are transgender competing in female sports not other trans rights.
Accuracy of archery isn’t as dependent on arm strength beyond what a trained woman can provide.
Sure some sports like running should be separated.
But it’s not that many. We can look at scores to determine which sports actually need separated. Instead of assuming they need separated.
Even billiards and golf is separated. For no biology reason.
Most separation came about because men wouldn’t allow women into their sports so women formed their own.
Chess, like many male-centric activities has historically excluded women. This is why women are in lower numbers for many professions and hobbies. They arent welcome. The men are hostile to them. It’s not easy to stay in a hobby/profession where you aren’t respected and everyone gives you the cold shoulder.
The fact that biological women can and do perform at mens levels proves it’s a social exclusion, not a biological one.
It’s kind of why men are lower in numbers in women’s hobbies/professions. Except that it isn’t necessary exclusion by women but mocking by other men and having their masculinity challenged.
There are plenty of men who are great at sewing, design, cooking, and even child rearing who are cis hetero men. Only in the last 15 or 20 years has it became more acceptable for men to have baking as a hobby. Before then, cooking was women’s work. Most men could barely use a microwave and would brag at their incompetence in the kitchen as an indicator of their masculinity.
I know it all gets so old so fast but these things still occur. Think of all the men who might be amazing seamstress or clothing designers. Or maybe could come up with new tasty foods to eat. Yet our society says they aren’t real men if they venture out into these areas. And often they are mockes mostly by other men but even women are part of the problem and are known to mock men or ask them “are you gay or something?” When they tell you they love knitting in their free time.
How is knitting related to sexual preferences? I don’t know but many people seem to think it is.
These gender role trends take a long time to change. And take specific interventions to change them. They don’t change on their own.
Gordon Ramsey probably had a big role in changing the baking one. As crazy as that sounds. ( And other male chiefs and cooks on TV. )
Yeah your point about genetics proves my point.
Genetic Sex isn’t binary in the first place.
That’s why trying to make hard rules based on chromosomes or what genital parts are visible is invalid.
It’s important to remember that all these activities we say are “for men” or “for women”. Were invented long long after sexes existed and even 40,000-50,000 years or more after humans evolved into who we are today.
(estimate based on unknown age of humans).
I mean chess. Making clothes. Knitting. Archery even.
How could humans possibly evolve so that one sex is good at those things and the other isn’t. ?
That’s just silly. It’s much more likely we are all cognitively capable and have similar dexterity with variations in genetics accounting for differences between individuals. Not between sexes.
Obviously some physical strength differences. Men have upper body strength and women have lower body for carrying babies.
But that’s almost all of the difference there is. Just those related to reproduction.
From https://splicedonline.com/do-you-need-to-be-strong-to-be-an-archer/
Archers need to generate enough strength to draw back the string and hold it in position for a sufficient amount of time to take aim and release the arrow. The amount of strength required varies depending on the individual and the type of bow being used, but most archers require a combination of strength, power, and control to effectively utilize their equipment.
Some psychologists believe that males dominate in chess because they have superior spatial relationship than women.
I never said you don’t need to be strong. I said women athletes are more than capable of archery. They are. They even currently compete.
The spatial thing is a myth and does not hold up when tested better.
However. Men typically have faster reflexes by like 50 ms. Its not a lot but it’s consistent.
There is something important to note about xy abilities.
Men have a flatter and wider bell curve for pretty much any trait. What this means is that most women ( traits ) score close to the mean compared to men’s. (For a given trait).
You often hear “men have higher iqs”. Well they dont but there are more men who have high iqs than women. But. There are also more men with the lowest iqs. (Though you dont hear people bringing that up)
You get more top athletes. But also more men with incredibly poor physical condition.
Disorders are more prevalent and genetic errors related to that Y, but you also occasionally get a beneficial error.
So it’s a trade off. A gamble. Being male might result in a little genetic bonus. But it’s just as likely you get a handicap.
And this sort of thing is more than likely a product of the sex chromosomes for men being incomplete xx. So they have a greater chance for a non dominant gene on that Y chromosome to be expressed. It’s why men are more prone to color blindness. It’s carried on that chromosome. Women usually have a backup on the extra tail on the X that will overwrite the bad recessive one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis
Even if men have higher variability, this is an irrelevant point for their ability to play most sports better than women.
Because there might be more athletic men. But there are comparable athletic women. It just means that it’s more competition for mens teams because more potentials are available.
It doesn’t mean they are better than the female team in ability. Though I acknowledge there are sports that should stay separated. Like track. Basketball.
It’s like. Let’s say 500 people in your city are doctors. Good doctors.
Let’s say 40 people in my city are good doctors.
You can’t say your doctors are better than mine just because you have more of them. They all went to med school and are board certified. The number for a given city is irrelevant.
An athlete will not be in poor health. Healthy men will perform better than healthy women in sports. Consequently, it’s better to separate them.