I mean, this is inaccurate, at least for Germany. Although health insurance is technically mandatory in Germany, there are over 50k citizens that are uninsured, not 0
Interesting. How are they uninsured? If they go to get care are they turned away or have to pay more?
It happens if people don’t pay their health insurance for more than 3 months in a row, and yes, they will get turned away by doctors unless they are willing to pay their entire treatment cost out of pocket.
As far as I understand it nost of these people are jobless, not on welfare and can’t pay the amount of money the insurence wants them to pay. Oh and also above 25 years old or without parenta as otherwise you could get insurance over them.
As a Canadian, I do want to point out that it’s not enough to be above the united states, considering how their bar is dropping lower and lower.
I am very thankful for our existing healthcare system, and I want to see people protect it against the american inspired groups that are trying to privatize parts of it.
There are also areas where we were originally SUPPOSED to have coverage based on the original plan decades ago (ex. pharmaceuticals, homecare, dental), but those phases never got implemented.
As an also-Canadian I’ll chime in here to say that there are definitely people in this country without health insurance coverage. If you’re here as a non-resident, you typically don’t have government insurance and are subject to out-of-pocket billing. I believe there are about half a million people in Ontario in this situation, not sure about other provinces.
I know the OP was supposed to be rhetorical, and I agree that the American healthcare is an embarrassment — but the reality of healthcare administration is complicated, and I’m not sure dumbing it down like this is all that helpful.
We subsidize Israel’s government through military. The money they save helps pay for them to have socialized healthcare.
That needs to be the message.
That should not be the message. Socialized health care is cheaper by far than the premium-on-health model that you’re using in the United States.
It’s the same argument that Republicans have been using to extract concessions from Canada and Europe: “look at these freeloaders, they won’t pay their fair share for defense (read: they don’t buy enough American weapons) and they use the money for socialized health care, we ought to teach them a lesson.”
The truth is that defense or foreign aid isn’t in the same league as health care. You’re giving Israel about 7 billion a year, and don’t get me wrong - that’s a lot and you should stop it. But you’re spending 5.3 trillion on health care. Meanwhile, the record-setting defense budget for 2026 is 718 billion - and interestingly the vast majority of that budget is actually socialized health care! It’s 441 billion going to the Department of Veterans Affairs.
With socialized health care, you could pay a lot less. And I hope you’d use the money for literally anything other than war.
they get alot more from us than just military aid
loads and loads of tax breaks/special exceptions to make doing business with them more lucrative than anywhere else.
special exceptions that make it incredibly easy for them to tap into the wild west that is US financial markets etc.
Even their culture is an inferior knock-off of ours.
Alright buddy, you better watch yourself now because you’re flying waaayy too close to the brown sun.
Bro seeing Israel when they’re not even in the post lol
Post was about a lot of countries. I singled out Israel because we pay for a lot of their shit while telling ourselves we can’t afford the same shit.
Why is that a problem for you?
We subsidize their military but can’t pay for our own? Interesting. But also you just come off as obsessive and, well, you know.
I said one thing and I’m “obsessive”?
That’s fucking stupid.
As a matter of fact, yes.
I live in the U.S. and I have “health insurance” from my employer (over 200k employees worldwide and billions in profit). My contribution to my health insurance premiums is around $4500 per year (I think). The last four years I have hit my deductible for at least one family member and out of pocket maximum. I am fortunate that I have been able to afford the roughly $20k per year that I have been spending on health care, but it has wrecked my ability to save or do anything else.
So I guess my point is that I believe that 27M uninsured dramatically understates the scale of the US healthcare crisis. I feel like the political elite are so far out of touch that they hear a story like mine and think “$20k? That’s like a nice bottle of wine, what’s the problem?” It’s been devastating to my finances and by virtually any definition, I am in the working rich. Most people absolutely could not afford $20k per year. I am hoping next year will be better, but devastating medical bills are inevitable for most of us, and our socialized medicine is administered through the bankruptcy courts.
For profit insurance is pure exploitation.
This is not completely true the countries that have zeros have tons of people who are not covered. Take a look at the map on this website.
Even with single-payer healthcare, which is commonly considered optimal for understandable reasons, hospitals, clinics and other services may be privatised and or are subject to severe budget cuts.
Stop pointing out the truth, it doesn’t fit the narrative that everything in the US is bad. Plus, healthcare isn’t “free” in any of those countries, unless you’re unemployed. Otherwise you’re paying double the tax if you have a job.
Lol. Double the tax? The fuck are you on about? Yes the taxes are higher but not THAT high. Stop distorting the truth for YOUR own purposes.
The average tax rate in Canada is around 40%. In the U.S its about 35%. The difference is Canada taxes higher income brackets more, whereas the U.S taxes them less. This impacts the averages.
So no, its not even close to double the tax rate. Stop spouting nonsense.
Just saying our personal tax rate has never exceeded 15% in the u.s. The average is 14.5% not sure where you got 35%.
Edit: In Canada its closer to 17% and 22% in Norway for example. 28% in France(very variable)
Either way, your argument is wrong. Its not double. At all.
I think you are talking about someone else
I am. Sorry. I wasnt reading usernames carefully. OPs point is still wrong.
You do realize that there are many governments spending less on healthcare than the US that do have universal healthcare, right? And I mean that as a percent of GDP rather than a flat figure per person and that’s NOT counting insurance and out of pocket spending for the US. The US government already spends a fucktonne of money on it.
You don’t need to increase taxes significantly to pay for it. Might not need to do it at all. A neat side effect of poor people having access to healthcare is that they’re healthier and can work, meaning they also pay tax.
This is not what I was saying.
unless you’re unemployed
You have no idea how crtitically important that security is, and I hope you’ll never learn the hard way
Yeah the system works so that higher income people subsidize lower income ones and pensioneers. It’s probably why there are not many people in Europe “making it” in American sense, but the flip side is that its one less thing to worry about if you suddenly become “downwardly” socially mobile at some point.
But back to your point. When I talked with my American coworkers their health insurance premiums didn’t look expensive at all compared to health contributions from paycheck. Especially so if you consider pay difference.
I am amazed it’s only 27 million. If they could, they would charge all 340 million Americans and all immigrants yet to nationalize, and give no service at all. Which is their obvious aim. Charge for being alive.
Republicans for the most part don’t care what anyone else thinks of them. They are full of the certain knowledge that they are the center of the universe and nothing outside that rotting circle matters.
Technically, Ireland doesn’t have free healthcare either, but it’s government subsidised and most people still have free healthcare for most cases.
Japan is not technically correct. One is required to have healthcare coverage, but some people skirt the law and don’t. We also pay at point of service, pay for prescriptions, etc. This is on top of paying for insurance (though your company may offer insurance that it pays some/all of). There are tax procedures once medical out-of-pocket reaches 100k JPY in a year and a way to reduce/eliminate further cost.
being honest a lot of those countries lack universal healthcare. And by universal I mean everyone, including migrants without papers.
I know this is a tough pill for americans to swallow. But lots of countries does not allow trans-athletes to compete in the women’s class.
The international organisation for track and field, and also the IOK have already said that transathletes are not allowed to compete with women (for now).
Though I absolutely agree that US politicians are experts at exaggerating and trying to blow the smallest issue out of proportion for headlines.
And it’s sad the American people are too uneducated to see through the charade.
I would laugh at the US, if it wasnt for the fact that people’s lives are ruined forever on a daily basis.
Not laughing. Crying
These aren’t any republicans, these are the rich ones with not enough imagination to think of anything but other people’s sexual preferences.
How is it in North Korea? Like seriously. I start to believe even they have a better health care system
I believe there’s a documentary out there from years back; journalists got an invite in and snuck cameras. The hospitals used old beer bottles for IV.
Edit: was it this? https://youtu.be/eLCdsXRiouE
Edit 2: https://youtu.be/GLdqtwWOD9E @2:30
So still better than the US, that’s what I am saying.
Jokes aside, if the beer bottles work, why not. Can be sterilized easily. And still better than no IV.
You’re probably right that beer bottles can work. But the fact that they have to use beer bottles probably indicates that they can’t afford the necessary materials to ensure these things are properly sterilized in the first place. Because, if they could, they’d probably be using sterilized bags.
I agree it’s still better than no IV, though. You gotta do what you gotta do.
That’s the wild part. The people help each other even though they get starved by the government. Almost similar to the US, with the exception that a MAGA would rather die than get treatment of a Biden supporter.
I can’t imagine laughing at this gross genocidal empire.
More like puking.
