• Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zip
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    9 days ago

    Do we seriously have to insinuate that people are Nazis every half a second? Could we just like, instead, not do that? Here on the threadiverse?

    The point you’re trying to make is frankly weaker for it.

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      8 days ago

      The truth is, their point is made weaker for using a far-right trash source with low credibility. Why they used that specific source should raise serious eyebrows.

      In fairness, I simply asked a question; how they responded reveals so much more. Though if you’re regurgitating the most fringe fucking garbage right-wing media points that just so happens to have wedge-drive the left, yes, I think that raises some red flags.

      I will continue to call such people out, and if they instead turned around and went, “Hey yeah you’re right, this source is dogshit and Snopes couldn’t even verify what was said in the video, so sorry for spreading this bullshit nazi trash” I’d say no harm no foul.

      Edit: By the way, I never said they were center-right; I was citing MBFC. Please, I encourage one to read more carefully. Though anyone with half a brain knows by the standards of Overton Window, that means far-right in US politics. If you disagree, then congratulations, you’re enabling fascism or should review the rightward trajectory of the Overton Window.

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        8 days ago

        My brother in Christ you already described it as being center-right and now you’re exaggerating that to try and make your point more sailient

        I agree that its an irreputable source and that the quality of the source should always be pointed out. But if you seriously think using a less than reputable source on a link aggregator site when it confirms their biases makes someone a Nazi I’m pretty damn confident your bar is set cartoonishly low.

        I don’t care whether you think they have credibility, you can make your case that they don’t; calling anyone and everyone a Nazi still damages yours. Your point would be stronger sans that assertion.

        I didn’t downvote you, but I think you can see lots of others did-- I guarantee you’d be more well received if you left out the heinous personal attacks without adequate basis and just stuck to your very strong argument that the source is uncredible and not something we should trust blindly.

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          Brother in Christ, I didn’t down-vote you, but also, I don’t give a shit enough about your opinion anymore to care to read the rest of it. Sorry. Just being honest! I know the sort of tankies and righties alike on here and take zero stock in their down-votes lol. In fact, sometimes I see that is a net-positive :)

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            I didn’t downvote you

            Lmao

            Youre right, everyone who disagrees with you is a tankie or a right-winger (we have so many of those here). You should just never engage with critique in any form because youre obviously always right, and anyone who disagrees must either be stupid or arguing in bad faith

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              You should see his last post on c/asklemmy. He asked why people have been so quick to block him LMAO

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              8 days ago

              Oh oops. Let me correct the misclick. Tell you what. I’ll even upvote you, since you clearly care so much!

              Also, thanks for confirming you’re fucking weird lol.

              Can you see what I tagged you, too? ;)

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                If you downvote someone at the same time as you reply and theres only one downvote, deep at the bottom of a thread, it makes it really obvious it was you, even if activitypub didn’t publish votes publicly

                Also, thanks for confirming you’re fucking weird lol.

                Says the person crashing out on the fediverse and blatantly arguing in bad faith without knowing the activity pub standard makes all votes public, so its really easy to show you’re lying lol

                Yes yes, I’m sure you think I’m a Nazi now too, we all know anyone you disagree with is, but for the record, no. Tagging users is private, at least to my understanding, though I don’t have a lot of experience with the feature- I’m not sure if the mobile client I use supports it

                Have a nice day

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                  so its really easy to show you’re lying lol

                  Unfortunately, lying requires proof of intent, and we all can all mis-click or just out of habit when you see absurdist comments. How silly, right? Probably just like how this far-right extremist outlet with known low credibility and zero other corroborating sources may have just dropped that video and audio into AI, and reveal something opposite to what Snopes itself was able to ascertain.

                  But yeah, yeah… Keep defending fringe right-wing outlets cited as “LOW CREDIBILITY.” You keep coming back for more, yet I’m the one crashing out?

                  Here, I’ll help a fella out and give you with the last response:

                  Edit: Oh, and before I go, I’ll even toss in another upvote (check and make sure that’s from me, too, though. Can’t be too sure). You have a nice rest of your day as well.

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                    Lol, you’re an idiot if you think anyone believes that was a mistake just take the L, and at no point did I defend a right wing outlet, I critisized calling people Nazis without adequate basis, I was very clear about what my position was or wasn’t

                    Me, like 2 comments ago:

                    I agree that its an irreputable source and that the quality of the source should always be pointed out.

                    …and just stuck to your very strong argument that the source is uncredible and not something we should trust blindly.

                    Straw man me harder, if you try really hard you can dismiss me as a Nazi too, the whole platform is obviously full of them, after all

                    And I don’t care how you vote, I care when people transparently argue in bad faith and are intellectually dishonest whenever they think they can get away with it and it serves their ability to “win” the argument. its shitty antisocial behavior, regardless of ideology