“VATICAN CITY, June 23 (Reuters) - The Vatican on Tuesday reaffirmed a long-standing rule that only an ordained priest or deacon can give a sermon at a Catholic mass, rejecting a request from German bishops to broaden the practice and allow sermons by women or other laypeople.”
Of course. Because fuck the Vatican anyway. Den of pedophiles.
Yeah, gotta keep the molesters as all male.
If they don’t reform they could make themselves irrelevant faster. So maybe it’s a positive overall.
It’s absolutely amazing how idiotic people are. I get wanting the warm fuzzy feeling of an afterlife, but the church has actively changed what “God” wanted to benefit the church several times. How daft do you have to be to not realise it’s a cash grab.
The Roman Empire just co-opted the religion, changed a bunch of stuff, and stomped out any other sects that didn’t fit their narrative of patriarchal oppression. Pretty sure big J would have hated what his “followers” are up to.
Mary Magdalene: “Hey, guys, I was just at Jesus’ tomb and I’ve got some good news—”
Peter: “Stop it with your women’s talk nonsense. I’ll go check it out and report back.”
And that’s been the story for the 2000 years since!
Not allowing women to deliver sermons is not sexist
women can be theologians, nuns, etc
just not priests
How is this not sexist?
we do not allow women to become Priests not because we believe they are inferior, but because of the Bible and Church Traditions
for example, Mary, is the queen of Heaven and mother of God, and is prayed to for intercession
Slavery was American tradition for like 100 years. Does that mean it’s ok?
If you’re tradition is being sexist, even tho it’s a tradition that doesn’t automatically make it ok.
“I know it looks bad but we’ve been lynching people since my great grandad so it’s family tradition and therefore fine :D”
Just because it is a tradition does not mean it is not sexist.
Your comments only do one thing: Showing that catholic traditions are sexist. And you argue that because it is tradition, it is okay. No. It’s not. If your tradition is sexist, then fuck your tradition, it has to fucking go.
"Today we hear the argument that “men and women are equal in Christ, so why can’t a woman be a priest? Jesus certainly didn’t discriminate in this way!”
The Church’s all-male priesthood doesn’t signify in the first place that women are inferior to men. It has nothing to do with that sort of nonsense. Galatians 3:28 teaches that “there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” We’re equal. The view that men and women have different roles to play within the Body of Christ is not contrary to that."
One reason for the male-only priesthood is very straightforward: Jesus Christ was a man. During Mass a priest stands in place for Christ (since it is, properly speaking, Christ Himself, not the priest, who offers the Sacrifice and performs the supernatural consecration), thus it is fitting that men only are ordained. This view that women can be priests ultimately is reduced to designating our Lord Jesus and Paul as bigoted sexists."
"The very highest, most exalted and sublime of God’s created beings is Jesus’ own mother, the immaculate (i.e., totally sinless) Blessed Virgin Mary. Mary Magdalene first saw the risen Jesus (Jn 20:11-18), and several women were in the forefront of that event, too, while the men were slow to believe. Jesus saved a woman from being stoned for adultery, on the grounds that her sin was not — in the final analysis — greater than anyone else’s. Even Rahab the harlot is honored, because she helped the Israelite spies. Jesus greatly honored the woman who wiped His feet with her tears and rebuked his male host. Jesus showed extraordinary regard for women throughout His public ministry.
The Apostle Paul taught, “love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her” (i.e., He died for us). That’s from Ephesians 5:25"
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2025/12/no-women-priests-in-the-catholic-church-why.html
So by the logic that only men can preach because Jesus was a man, do you also enforce the rule that only middle Eastern Jewish carpenters can preach?
If not, then it is clearly possible for people to “stand in” for Jesus when preaching, even without matching his characteristics perfectly. The decision to specifically exclude women based on that one particular characteristic is therefore obviously sexist.
It took me over 60 years, but I have finally understood that the mistranslations, misunderstandings, and outright fabrications of a small group of people thousands of years ago maybe influential, but that doesn’t make them true.
The number of logical, philosophical, and moral backflips that you have to do in order to make any sense of it can only work if you have already decided that they are true. Without all that hand-waving, it’s ludicrous.
you can read the original hebrew and greek
and proof?
You’re arguing over the intentions of men in a world that has been massively patriarchal for longer than your religion exists. Please.
With this fun mental gymnastic logic you could argue that priests can’t be white because Jesus wasn’t white :)
How is this not sexist?
because of the Bible and Church Traditions
“It’s not sexist because it’s a sexist tradition.”
Religion is silly.
💭 To consider antireligion, not atheism; https://www.arscyni.cc/file/antireligion.html
“The harm of religion is historically evident whereas the presence or absence of gods is not. Ultimately, the continued existence of religion is predicated on the indoctrination of children and suppression of rational thought. Therefore, I am against religion but not necessarily against the idea of gods. For all we know gods are computer scientists and we are in their video game.”
suppression of rational thought? proof?
suppression of rational thought? proof?
https://www.reuters.com/world/vatican-rejects-proposal-allow-sermons-by-catholic-women-2026-06-23/
Let me spell it out
the most common way to become a Priest is through a religious order
When in formation, you decide to be a Brother or a Priest if you are in a male order
and in a female order, you are a nun after formation
some become Brothers and not priests as they want to support the Order and have more time to dedicate to Theology, Writing, Reading, etc.
you just cannot be ordained into the Priesthood as a woman
Ah yeah the woman who was chosen to give birth without her consent. A model of femininity.
Luke 1:38 Then Mary said: “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to your word.” And the Angel departed from her.
You really are just that annoying huh.
Damn son. Try not trying so hard. Honestly? Do anything different than what you’re attempting to rn. Nobody likes you.
Is handmaid a euphemism for concubine/sex slave?
Or is it more like “well he’s my boys so I guess I have to”
handmaid means servant
and its like “The Lord has decided this, I agree as its his will”
So many traditions have changed over the years, why not change this one?
Child
Abusing
Theologically
Hateful
Oligarchical
Licentious
Insane
Cunts
they call him 007
0 logic or reason
0 proof or sources
7 claims
LMAO
as a Catholic myself, a trained chimp could deliver those god damn sermons. It’s the same shit on a yearly basis like clockwork. if a Woman wants to do that then what’s the problem? Sing, routine prayer shit, reading directly from the bible the exact same passage from the same time last year, kneel, stand, kneel, sing, more routine, communion, kneel, stand, more singing.
Seriously, a trained chimp.
I don’t think it’s a skill issue…
You’re a trained chimp?
I’m definitely replacing “sincerely” with “seriously” for all my correspondence.
Seriously, A minimally-trained chimp
akshually 🤓 it’s a six years long cycle (2 years + 3 years) but under no circumstances you will deprive village’s assigned reactionary of their soapbox. without church, who would be running political interference??
this is just a blatant oversimplification
Once again a great example of why religion does not belong in the 21st century. No matter how tolerant and progressive they claim or pretend to be, there will always be something that shows they just want to adhere to their medieval rules.
And touch little kids. They seem to be keeping that tradition alive.
The highest rank a woman can achieve in the Catholic Church will continue to be Nun…
Is a Mother Superior considered a higher rank than regular nun? Or is it like tech lead, more responsibilities but same pay.
a superior general in an Order is a higher rank, yes
Phoebe the deaconess would like a word about that. Given Paul thanks her for being a “diakonos” or deacon of the church in Cenchreae. They honor the Bible but prefer their own accumulated traditions over scripture.
διάκονος, the word used to describe Phoebe can also mean messenger, courier or servant
Romans 16:2 so that you may receive her in the Lord with the worthiness of the saints, and so that you may be of assistance to her in whatever task she will have need of you. For she herself has also assisted many, and myself also.
she was being received, so I think that she was a messenger/courier and servant of the Church
Catholics: Fucking people over since 33AD.
*Fucking little boys
The priests, sure, but Catholics in general fuck plenty of kids of every gender.
If they don’t appeal to misogynists who else will they attract?
Traditionally, pedophiles.
Crazy how much overlap there is with Catholic priests.
“only an ordained priest or deacon can give a sermon”
water is wet and grass is green
That’s really fucking sexist
how?
Can a woman ever be the leader of the church?
the pope? no
she can become a nun, then a superior and if she dies a Catholic, after purgatory and intercessory miracles are observed, she becomes an official Saint
So its sexist thanks for coming to my Ted talk
