TL;DR: Mozilla is killing localization on Support Mozilla, overwriting articles written by humans with machine generated translations. Although Mozilla knows that their AI doesn’t localize or adhere to style guides, Mozilla is going live with it anyway. I thank locale leaders and localizers for their tireless efforts. Locale leaders seem to be obviated by AI, and Mozilla has nothing to say about it.

TL;DR: Mozilla is killing localization on Support Mozilla, overwriting articles written by humans with machine generated translations. Although Mozilla knows that their AI doesn’t localize or adhere to style guides, Mozilla is going live with it anyway. I thank locale leaders and localizers for their tireless efforts. Locale leaders seem to be obviated by AI, and Mozilla has nothing to say about it.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    9 months ago

    Why the fuck is lemmy so chuck full of anti Fiirefox and anti Mozilla propaganda?
    I even see comments about Firefox needing to be open source again!?!?
    It FUCKING IS open source, anybody can fork it if they want to, the only thing they can’t do is use the Firefox logo and name.

    You are all a bunch of idiots!! (everybody who upvoted this trash blog)

    • 3abas@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      9 months ago

      Is it anti Firefox progranda to literally criticize them for reopening human contributed content with lesser quality AI generated one?

      Your response to that criticism is to bring up another topic (Firefox being open source) and calling everyone idiots?

      • h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        I have worked both as a professional translator in works not related to software and as a software developer, and also have participaded on open source public project translated by the community with weblate.

        There is NO WAY at all that the AI translations are worse. DeepL has been powering your human translators pretty much since it released, and LLMs are way better at translating than the average Joe.

        Most of those weblate managed translations I mentioned were absolute dogshit. Done by humans, done with passion and good intention (most of the time, some of the languages we did know less about had stuff that had nothing to do with the original texts).

        Like, people assume since they speak a language that they are able to translate that language and that is not true.

        Unless Mozilla had full time, proper translators working, the quality con only increase by using AI.

        And if they did, they can sack most of the team, leave one per language, and have them review the translations, and they would save massive amounts of money. And like it or not, open source needs money to run.

    • chunes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Why the fuck is lemmy so chuck full of anti Fiirefox and anti Mozilla propaganda?

      Because everyone here uses it. What else are they going to complain about?

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      English
      2·
      9 months ago

      I still use Firefox every day, but I don’t trust the corporate overlords to do what’s right long term. They seem to be getting greedy instead of listening to the user base. They’ve started including AI bullshit features for the sake of it, like grouping tabs by content that nobody asked for and that barely works for me. I’m not anti-Mozilla, but I sure am weary of it and would welcome an alternative.

      I haven’t come across any open source comments, but those seem pretty clueless.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        9 months ago

        I don’t trust the corporate overlords to do what’s right long term.

        You don’t have to, if Mozilla really screwed the pooch with Firefox it would be forked. Debian used to do it with IceWeasel over a petty thing like the copyright of the Firefox logo, which 100% has always been justified, and is necessary to distinguish between an official Firefox and a fork.

        The AI bullshit features as you call them are completely non invasive, I always use the newest Firefox, and I never even noticed those features.

        Stop the bullshitting and complaining over things are completely irrelevant. and will never ever have any negative influence on anything you do with Firefox.
        I’m so sick of this lame community doing this over and over and over again, and it always turns out to be nothing.

        • Lemminary@lemmy.world
          English
          1·
          9 months ago

          The AI bullshit features as you call them are completely non invasive,

          And yet I had to turn them off in about:config, not even in the regular settings. Why are the settings hidden? Why can’t I turn them on if I want them? Why isn’t opt-in and transparency their standard approach with such a controversial feature? Those are some serious dark patterns for a company advertising itself as user-friendly, that they had to backtrack on when they saw the community uproar.

          Now it’s happening again, but on the developer side.

          Stop the bullshitting and complaining over things are completely irrelevant

          Irrelevant? I can’t afford AI threads running in the background, hogging my memory and processing power away from my productivity apps for whatever bullshit they decide to add that barely relates to what I use a browser for. I don’t live in a “first-world country” with standard hardware. That’s the whole reason I use Firefox, for the respect for their users that I have grown accustomed to, which they now seem to want to ignore. It’s a huge violation of trust that you’re downplaying when they want to add things first and apologize later.

          The bottom line is that their approach has shifted recently, and I have every right to criticize them for it when they say one thing and do another.