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“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy. And, right now, we are dealing with, as I called him at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant,” she said, referencing her rally last year on the White House Ellipse in Washington. “We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up,”
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Except they have actually started seizing parts of businesses. Is that not literally communism? Honest question. Because if it’s not, I don’t know what it is.
It’s communism when the workers seize the means of production. The thing is, this is not a workers’ government.
So the split hairs is that technically it’s not communism because it’s not helping the workers?
This really feels like “no true Scotsman”. The government that workers chose, seized the means of production. This is communism.
It’s not even under the illusion of communism you nonce. So no, it’s not communism.
Might as well call Trump the real “woke librul antifa” if you don’t care about the meaning words.
I guess what @degen@midwest.social is trying to point at is that worker’s don’t truly control the government and so when the current government seizes the means of production it’s closer to a change of hands between different groups of capitalists than anything envisioned by communists.
I’d also like to say that although the government has “seized” 10% of Intel shares for example it has no control over Intel’s decisions. Those shares only provide dividends.
THIS ISNT REAL COMMUNISMM REEEEEEEE
-no shit Sherlock we know it’s not an imaginary classless utopia because I’m still poor
I’m happy you do, others might not be so wise
What a stupid fucking person
How the hell is Trump a communist? What is she smoking damn.
The support for capitalism over all else is expected, neoliberals do little else, but this level of delusion? Worrying.
No need to compliment him by calling him a communist. He’s a dictator who operates a system built around a cult of personality where he delegates authority to sycophants not based on ability to do the job well, but on shared ideology, capacity to serve within the cult of personality, and his personal liking of them, alongside an economic policy built around society serving capital which serves the cult of personality. English actually has a word for such a system but it’s legally questionable to refer to the current regime using it at the moment.
She still doesn’t get it. Capitalism inevitably leads to fascism. It’s a core feature.
Capitalism leads to corporate monopolies leads to fascism.
Yes. I really don’t get it. Everybody has played monopoly but it seems like nobody has learned the lessons of the game.
She was never a good pick for the role. She should have faded into obscurity after losing the primary in 2020.
Because calling your enemies commie leftists is definitely not something fascists do.
This feels similar to what Biden tried to do (which failed spectacularly, btw) when he tried to outflank Trump on the border from the right, the summer before the election.
Its not clear understands what she’s doing here and is confusing the language of communism with that of authoritarianism. So she’s saying Trump isn’t capitalist enough? Like who is it she thinks this rhetoric is going to move? Who is this argument designed to work on?
No, she is actually correct. He has taken some very communist steps. The government has taken stake in Nvidia and Intel, as well as received voting shares in Nippon Steel. His government has literally started seizing the means of production. His supporters are usually very anti communist yet, here he is doing what communists would do. If the message was conveyed correctly it might work. However, coming from Harris it just sounds like a sore loser. Bernie has actually praised these specific moves and that should really rattle his base. Instead the DNC will probably use this as a way to attack progressives by saying they supported Trump.
“Dogs have ears. I have ears. Therefore I am a dog.”
So says the featherless biped.
Wow and Harris just airballs it. Jesus.
In point of fact, capitalism is demonstrably quite enamored with authoritarianism in more places than just the US.
TIL Harris doesn’t know the difference between communism and facism.
In fairness, the differences are slim.
The thing people fail to realize is, the political spectrum isn’t a line that goes from left to right. It’s a ring, and the extremities almost touch.
What an incredibly stupid thing to say as one of the only public statements since losing an election to a bozo.
Libs love losing and blue MAGA will eat all of this shit she’s saying while advertising her crappy book up.
She a little confused but she got the spirit
See fellows, if you still think Harris was a good candidate. This pretty much along with her support of Israel seals the deal.
Yeah we definitely did a lot better by splitting on her so Trump could get in office a second time, possibly as the last President of the US. Israel’s policy matters much more than what happens here at home, to me for sure.
Yup, You couldn’t pressure democrats or anything riiiiiiiiight. Trump is simply forcing Americans to feel a modicrum of the torture USA inflicts upon the world.
Imperialism called, it wants its boomerang back.
So the DNC should not change at all and did nothing wrong, you’re saying?
hilarious to hear Americans use terms like Socialist, Communist, Fascist even at the levels of supposedly highly educated and clearly they have no idea what they are talking about.
