Have you ever used bank software, or some government services site? It is often really hard to not get the idea that it was designed and run by idiots. As someone who’s worked as a software developer most of my life, it is not difficult for me to believe it, either.

Right, a stack that was itself read-only would be hard to use! :^D C definitely lets you modify the things in the stack. (Ah the fun of bugs where you accidentally overwrite other shit on the stack!) I don’t know Rust, but it would not surprise me if Rust only had immutable things on the stack.

I’m drawing on some old memories here, so I could be mistaken, but I don’t think the stack is read only, not in C anyway or in the underlying machine code. If it is faster it has to do with greater overhead needed managing the larger heap and perhaps being more efficient to push and pop with small offsets to a local stack frame vs large absolute addresses.

There seems to be a certain entitled smugness that always shows…

I don’t think they are the same category of thing. Ocean is a design system. Breeze is a theme.

Edit: now I’m less sure. This seemed to say it is both a style and a “design system” which I took to mean a technical mechanism for styles, but now i’m less clear what they mean.

Definitely sounds like it’s leveraging some water memory ideas.

They are full of prions. Compost them instead.