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Cake day: June 19th, 2023

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  • There might be a relevant difference in the fact that most animals can run/move away from something that hurt them, and pain might be the necessary evolutionary adaptation to facilitate that. A plant or fungus just has chemical responses, which probably don’t rely on being sentient. Our skin most likely produces melanin without being sentient, after all.

    I guess the interesting question is whether there are any processes in plants that somehow imply sentience. Afaik science hasn’t found a decisive example yet.

    I’d say it’s wrong to harm other humans because it’s extremely likely that they feel pain and emotions in a similar way as I do. Roughly the same applies to chimps, and dogs, and pigs too. Maybe the emotions aren’t as complex, but they clearly behave according to the basic ones like joy and fear. The response to pain is basically the same as ours. So harming them without a necessity to do so seems cruel to me.

    Even if plants were more conscious than animals, the animals have to be fed with tons of plants to begin with. Eating plants directly minimizes plant and animal deaths.





  • Smoking sucks and I’m glad I’ve never done it, but I’m worried that this will push even more people to the far right because they will feel patronized as fuck.

    Also not sure if a flourishing black market is much better. Seems like an enormous source of income for organized crime which might not be the best thing.

    Imo it would be much better to only ban it at places where there are a lot of people and do proper education in schools so that children actually understand why it’s a terrible idea.