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  • you are not burdened to proove you have a right, it the job of law enforment to prove you dont have it

    This isn’t about private citizen rights vs the state. It’s private vs private rights. Private property owners do not have the same obligations to defend your civil rights as the state.

    Remember that Hawaii is a castle doctrine state. People have a right to defend their home or place of work against intruders with lethal force. If someone can shoot armed intruders, you better believe it is in your best interest to check before entering a property.

    Its the same reason you cant ban all gay people from the McDonalds you run. You either keep not reading this or keep ignoring it in your replies.

    A private company can ban people for swearing or preaching or whatever type of speech even though you have a first amendment right. Race, age, sex, sexuality, and religion are procted classes specifically by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Gun carriers are NOT a protected class.



  • Assuming someone legally exercising a right they possess in a place they’re allowed to be is actually there to commit crimes is asanine.

    That’s just it, you can only assume that person has the right to own the gun. For all you know they are on probation for gun crimes and shouldn’t have it. It’s on the gun owner to prove they aren’t a threat.

    Moreover, how do you imagine someone to get consent from the McDonalds franchise owner before going inside?

    Call ahead. Or just don’t carry the gun if you don’t know. Permission should not be assumed by default on private property.

    The level of burden is similar to having to get consent from the owners of parking lots with no signs before even driving your car into one

    The existence of a parking lot is a sign. It’s more like parking on someones lawn and then being surprised they are mad at you.