I love how everybody is assuming that there will be a “next election”. I’m not sure that’s guaranteed. Except, maybe, in the way that Russia still has elections.
I mean, I know you can be too alarmist about things, but there’s a very clear and obvious direction of travel in the US right now.
I don’t disagree with you, but I feel like people jump to that scenario without describing the steps to get there. How do you see unfolding? How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC? What about blue states? How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus? Does it even matter? If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?
Trump is sending “election observers” to California because of prop 50 and to New York because of Mamdani. It’s reasonable to be very concerned about future election integrity. ICE has a larger budget than the Marines. They’ve openly ignored courts. They have fully abandoned the rule of law.
Like I said, I don’t disagree that this is a possibility, but I’m curious how people see it unfolding. I like to leverage other minds to develop my thinking.
Doomerism would be if there were an “…and therefore it’s pointless doing anything” at the end.
I’d say the thing that helps nothing is a casual assumption of “if we campaign well enough, then we’ll win the next election and everything will be fine”, as opposed to “we are sleepwalking into a fascist dictatorship and we need to take that seriously”.
I’ve seen no attitude in this thread which suggests that people are doing anything other than assuming that the next US presidential election will happen and be business as usual.
One need only look at the start of this very thread to be proven wrong about that… it’s almost as if my comment on the doomerism was not spawned from nothing.
Honestly? Fuck it. Corporate Dems are pushing Newsom hard; I’d love to see Kamala wrestle with being abandoned by everyone she gave up any morals for.
Ensure we have no chance of winning
I will splinter the two party system into a thousand little pieces. Mark my words.
That’s every top-level post above mine. Which suggests to you that the poster is concerned about Trump subverting or cancelling the election to finalise installing himself as a dictator?
Okay, I’m completely lost now. You read my comment and said that it was unhelpful becuase the fact that my comment existed means that it was unnecessary for me to add my commnet to my comment?
I honestly have no clue what you’re trying to say at this point or whether you even think that stating that US elections are in danger is a good, bad, or neutral thing.
I love how everybody is assuming that there will be a “next election”. I’m not sure that’s guaranteed. Except, maybe, in the way that Russia still has elections.
I mean, I know you can be too alarmist about things, but there’s a very clear and obvious direction of travel in the US right now.
I don’t disagree with you, but I feel like people jump to that scenario without describing the steps to get there. How do you see unfolding? How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC? What about blue states? How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus? Does it even matter? If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?
Trump is sending “election observers” to California because of prop 50 and to New York because of Mamdani. It’s reasonable to be very concerned about future election integrity. ICE has a larger budget than the Marines. They’ve openly ignored courts. They have fully abandoned the rule of law.
Like I said, I don’t disagree that this is a possibility, but I’m curious how people see it unfolding. I like to leverage other minds to develop my thinking.
They just told you how they see it unfolding though.
The only thing they said was they are sending election observers. How does that answer any of the very valid questions I asked?
Doomerism helps nothing
Doomerism would be if there were an “…and therefore it’s pointless doing anything” at the end.
I’d say the thing that helps nothing is a casual assumption of “if we campaign well enough, then we’ll win the next election and everything will be fine”, as opposed to “we are sleepwalking into a fascist dictatorship and we need to take that seriously”.
You don’t need to spell out that last bit for it to have the same effect, as their whole attitude implies it
I’ve seen no attitude in this thread which suggests that people are doing anything other than assuming that the next US presidential election will happen and be business as usual.
One need only look at the start of this very thread to be proven wrong about that… it’s almost as if my comment on the doomerism was not spawned from nothing.
That’s every top-level post above mine. Which suggests to you that the poster is concerned about Trump subverting or cancelling the election to finalise installing himself as a dictator?
I was talking about YOURS. Holy shit
Okay, I’m completely lost now. You read my comment and said that it was unhelpful becuase the fact that my comment existed means that it was unnecessary for me to add my commnet to my comment?
I honestly have no clue what you’re trying to say at this point or whether you even think that stating that US elections are in danger is a good, bad, or neutral thing.