It looks like there’s one who downvoted many people. I’m assuming it just hasn’t been seen by them yet. We’re also in .world, which is defederated from them, so they won’t see it without alts.
pretty much everyone here who isn’t aggressively anti-china and anti-soviet union
This is pretty indicative of the issue. The Soviet Union hasn’t existed for quite a while now! The people defending modern day authoritarian Russia are no Communists, or Marxist-leninists. They’re Authoritarians. They say they’re leftist, but they support the oligarchies oppressing the people. That is the furthest thing from leftist.
You are aware Ukraine only exists as a sovereign country because of the USSR right? Ukraine was never an independent nation before the USSR. The USSR gave many of the peoples and nations of the old Russian empire their own republics. It was a big part of the Soviet project. They had a congress that was democratically elected, but their version of a “senate” was actually a “nation and people’s” congress, where 2 representatives of each nation, ethnicity or people would gather and have the power to veto laws etc. like a senate does.
I’m in an instance that is federated with pretty much everything. I interact with Hexbear and .ml people fairly frequently. Sure, some hold a reasonable view where what Russia is doing is bad. Many enthusiastically support Russia though.
I’ve listened to them, and try to enter discussions in good faith with an open mind. They will frequently say things like saying Russia is leftist, and appealing to the USSR, while not being critical of Russia drafting the people to die in an imperialist invasion of another nation. There is nothing leftist or anti-imperialist about it. They are, at best, anti-western. That’s all. If you’re anti-imperialist, you can’t support Russia’s continual invasion of other countries, and ethnic cleansing.
I am surprised they haven’t downvoted this comment yet.
The tankies tend to block lemmy.world.
It looks like there’s one who downvoted many people. I’m assuming it just hasn’t been seen by them yet. We’re also in .world, which is defederated from them, so they won’t see it without alts.
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Is it not? I know it is from hexbear. I thought .ml was too. It’s hard to keep track of all that, especially since I’m from a different instance.
I’m on .world and I see .ml stuff.
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This is pretty indicative of the issue. The Soviet Union hasn’t existed for quite a while now! The people defending modern day authoritarian Russia are no Communists, or Marxist-leninists. They’re Authoritarians. They say they’re leftist, but they support the oligarchies oppressing the people. That is the furthest thing from leftist.
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Ukrainians would rather not be ruled by the Kremlin, be it Soviet or Russian nationalist.
As you know, Russia’s invasion made/makes NATO and EU look better to other countries besides Ukraine.
You are aware Ukraine only exists as a sovereign country because of the USSR right? Ukraine was never an independent nation before the USSR. The USSR gave many of the peoples and nations of the old Russian empire their own republics. It was a big part of the Soviet project. They had a congress that was democratically elected, but their version of a “senate” was actually a “nation and people’s” congress, where 2 representatives of each nation, ethnicity or people would gather and have the power to veto laws etc. like a senate does.
I’m in an instance that is federated with pretty much everything. I interact with Hexbear and .ml people fairly frequently. Sure, some hold a reasonable view where what Russia is doing is bad. Many enthusiastically support Russia though.
I’ve listened to them, and try to enter discussions in good faith with an open mind. They will frequently say things like saying Russia is leftist, and appealing to the USSR, while not being critical of Russia drafting the people to die in an imperialist invasion of another nation. There is nothing leftist or anti-imperialist about it. They are, at best, anti-western. That’s all. If you’re anti-imperialist, you can’t support Russia’s continual invasion of other countries, and ethnic cleansing.
Defederation works the other way around…
They would be mad if they could read