• 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      I agree in general, but I don’t even fucking care if we have billionaires (although trillionaires most definitely goes too far on what to allow).

      If we have amazing social safety nets and appropriate fair taxes that are proportional to wealth, if our wealth inequality decreases drastically, we have universal health care, universal basic income, protection of human rights… if someone still manages to be a billionaire and we’re protected from undue political influence from that shit, then… fine, fuck it, I don’t fucking care.

      So I agree, but it’s not the highest thing on my list if we get all the other shit right.

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        3 days ago

        While I agree that all would be great, it’s the power they hold with the money and they won’t hold the same power if us little people have those rights. Like imagine if everyone had enough of a safety net to protest one of the disgustingingly rich person’s ideas? They’d blow a gasket thinking they can’t be told otherwise.

        The entitlement that comes with that weath is part of the issue is all I mean, that’s why these people with their wealth fuck up things. They are the idiot yelling at the minimum wage person but have the resources to buy the freaking franchise to get their way. They never learned no (or forgot) and that sometimes things don’t work out for them. That’s what we usually teach toddlers and young kids in general. They just made so much that they have no respect for anyone else or society.

        No more billionaires is a good ideal to forward society to be better.

        Okay if there’s a unicorn billionaire out there that is cool but if they were cool they’d be pushing for all the stuff mentioned in the previous comment.

        They are a noticable chunk of the reason that things are like they are now but I rarely hear one pushing for anything on your list and fewer doing anything about it.

        Maybe a bit harsh and I missed some people who try but really can’t think of anyone in the billionaire club that cares about the wage slave but wants to exploit them instead.

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          I owe you a longer reply but dialysis is early so bed now but I basically agree.

          Only will argue that Dolly Parton was about as good as it gets - she didn’t make billionaire because of her philanthropy. Not perfect, some of it is good PR, but also I think a pretty decently ethical multimillionaire. :)

          But very few are.

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            2 days ago

            You said enough and I get it, I may have been too broad in judgement, and everything I’ve heard about her has been that she was one of the sweetest and nicest people you could meet. Like one in a billion.

            I was sad to hear she passed any person helping that many kids read is not just helping the kids but helping society improve. We could use more of that these days even in small bits.

            I hope you do well with everything.

            • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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              2 days ago

              Forgot to go find this again. heh. So glad for your reply :)

              Well, any big wealth like she accumulated comes from exploiting the system, one way or the other, although it’s easier to argue that a performer might be exploiting less than someone like Musk.

              And also - not that I’m defending her, but a point someone brought up that I think is salient in her case - she probably would’ve broken a billion except for all the charity work she did.

              But that said, we gotta tax wealth in a serious way that we’re not. Charity is good, but government raising taxes and providing a safety net for all is better. Her work was good, but I don’t think I benefitted - I don’t have to, but y’know, not everyone did. (not relaly sure offhand what billionaire chairty has benefitted me, but either way, proper taxing of the wealthy should have given me and everyone else social safety nets).

              So probably we have very little in the way of disagreement on this topic. hehe

              Thank you for the warm wishes - either way, life goes on (until it doesn’t), and I hope you do well with everything as well (I was gonna wish a nice day, but I really like yours better) :)