• SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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    This is the evil brilliance of Conservative marketing. The American working classes have been brainwashed to think what’s good for Jeffy and Zucky and Donnie is what’s good for them.

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    What about all the unions who fought for healthcare?

    -My dad, justifying voting for Hillary and later Biden in the primaries.

    Every election it was “yes, the left have policy that would directly benefit us, but the moderates won’t vote for that so I shouldn’t either.”

    Well except when he voted Bush thinking he would get lower taxes.

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      “Moderates” is always such a silly term to me. They’re not actually moderate; their beliefs are corporate extremism.

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        Its not even a real thing. There is no contingent of voters who will vote for “means-tested subsidies to buy health insurance from 1 of 50 marketplaces based on what your family’s expected healthcare needs are and employer contribution”, but won’t vote for free healthcare. There is no “help Israel do only a little genocide” vote.

        But every time, cable news would dupe the poor man into voting for what some imaginary moderate wanted instead of policy that materially benefits everyone.

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    Yes, and?

    That should mean that they can switch to doing something productive instead. It’s not even bad capitalist politics.

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    I want nothing more than to hurt the industy and take jobs from those who perpetuate it.

    Introduce UBI at the same time.

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    I literally had a bunch of my comments removed for saying this same thing

    Your problem isn’t capitalism per-say, it’s a government that supports corporations over you

    Doesn’t matter what system you technically have, if the government cares more about businesses than they do you, you’re fucked

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    We’re basically headed toward a dystopic authoritarian oligarchy with huge disparity. It’s gonna look like all those fictional dystopias portrayed in Elysium or Neuromancer but without all the cool tech. Yeah, we should have these social programs for people…but unless we crush the oligarchy they’ll create continuous pressure to make sure these social programs are as shitty as possible and be functionally the caricature of socialism the right wing uses for its propaganda. We’ll be second or third class citizens living in favelas or similar social housing.They won’t stop bleeding the people for more. But the thing is, if we get rid of the oligarchy we’ll not need such a huge social safety net*.

    *we should have a good one anyway, but it shouldn’t be a response to the disparity created by billionaires, we should just have one by default.