So if we agree that AI doesn’t need to use that much power; then we agree that we don’t need to spend that much money on hyper scalers or on data centers and that the AI goons can run their shit locally. This conversation is useless. the AI bros. can “run their own local model for the energy cost of watching tv” like you argument.
We don’t want this crap, easy as that, we don’t need data centers to be built. The AI bros that want to use AI for niche applications can use a local model. I don’t want an AI data center in my state or even my country. I don’t want my country to trash their own infrastructure by putting all investment in a dead end like AI. Super intelligence will never come. AGI will never come. I rather invest on people than on the delusions of the pedophiles and snake oil salesmen that follow the effective altruist movement. And i will never use AI. And i don’t care about the technology. I want to own my tech locally and not be renting compute to nazis and idiots like Sam Altman or Elon Musk.
Also AI industries will never make it’s investment back because in order to make a profit from that investment it needs something that resembles massive adoption and people paying for it. (or fucking over every computer user by turning them into subscribers for cloud compute.) And that won’t happen because if their wild predictions come true, nobody will have a job in that scenario. Renting AI for things you don’t do for a living is incredibly stupid.
The most likely scenario is that Hyper scalers and AI companies are hitting a wall and this is just a bribe for the US government to bail them out when they crash the economy. In my opinion when the crash comes these snake oil salesmen should be put in jail; not bailed out.
Whether the hardware to run it is on-prem at a large company, on local machines or in data centres, it is still a big increase in the demand for that hardware, and that costs money. Your argument doesn’t work, because it relates two unrelated things:
how energy intensive AI is compared to other activities
how hardware intensive AI is compared to current hardware usage
It should be clear that one can be high while the other is low.
The rest of your comment became a highly passionate rant instead of a reply to what I said about energy usage, which I will chalk up as yet more evidence that
people hate it with an irrational passion. So they criticise all aspects of it, whether reasonably or not.
So if we agree that AI doesn’t need to use that much power; then we agree that we don’t need to spend that much money on hyper scalers or on data centers and that the AI goons can run their shit locally. This conversation is useless. the AI bros. can “run their own local model for the energy cost of watching tv” like you argument.
We don’t want this crap, easy as that, we don’t need data centers to be built. The AI bros that want to use AI for niche applications can use a local model. I don’t want an AI data center in my state or even my country. I don’t want my country to trash their own infrastructure by putting all investment in a dead end like AI. Super intelligence will never come. AGI will never come. I rather invest on people than on the delusions of the pedophiles and snake oil salesmen that follow the effective altruist movement. And i will never use AI. And i don’t care about the technology. I want to own my tech locally and not be renting compute to nazis and idiots like Sam Altman or Elon Musk.
Also AI industries will never make it’s investment back because in order to make a profit from that investment it needs something that resembles massive adoption and people paying for it. (or fucking over every computer user by turning them into subscribers for cloud compute.) And that won’t happen because if their wild predictions come true, nobody will have a job in that scenario. Renting AI for things you don’t do for a living is incredibly stupid.
The most likely scenario is that Hyper scalers and AI companies are hitting a wall and this is just a bribe for the US government to bail them out when they crash the economy. In my opinion when the crash comes these snake oil salesmen should be put in jail; not bailed out.
Whether the hardware to run it is on-prem at a large company, on local machines or in data centres, it is still a big increase in the demand for that hardware, and that costs money. Your argument doesn’t work, because it relates two unrelated things:
It should be clear that one can be high while the other is low.
The rest of your comment became a highly passionate rant instead of a reply to what I said about energy usage, which I will chalk up as yet more evidence that