• baines@lemmy.cafe
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    3 days ago

    70% of the modern internet is bots botting for bots

    i’ll take the drinking water

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        3 days ago

        5 years ago sure

        how do you think ai being used today? most ai isnt locally hosted

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          2 days ago

          The internet and AI are two different things.

          The internet wasn’t taking your drinking water 5 years ago and it’s not taking it today.

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            2 days ago

            lol the internet is 70% bot traffic today

            wanna bet more and more of that is ai driven?

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              2 days ago

              The things using the internet is irrelevant. The fact remains that the internet itself is not taking your drinking water

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                2 days ago

                i’m always amazed how it can be so hard for some people to think beyond whatever is immediately in their face

                70% of the internet traffic is the fucking internet

                just because you don’t like that doesn’t matter

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                  Internet traffic is not the internet. Thats like saying cars and trucks are the highway. I can’t believe I have to dumb this down for you, but here goes: T highway is that asphalt thing that sits on the ground between two places, right? And cars and trucks are the things you drive on the highway. So like, in terms of emissions, the highway isn’t producing all those nasty emissions, the cars and trucks are. So if you don’t like those nasty emissions, you can regular the cars and trucks, but the highway isn’t at fault. You could reduce the emissions of the vehicles, replace the cars with more efficient busses, you could even just ride bikes on the highway if you really wanted to. But all these things are separate from the highway itself, see?

                  Just because you don’t understand how any of this works doesn’t change the fact of the matter which is that the internet is not taking your drinking water.

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                    2 days ago

                    i don’t care about fucking semantics, life must be complicated for you if you are this hung up on literals

                    it’s amazing you can be so close as to use cars and highways and yet be so damn blind to history and the parallel implications

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                    2 days ago

                    By your own definition, then AI is now the internet. Prompts and outputs are the cars and trucks, while the data centers and models are the highway. 70% of the internet is running on data centers and models. What makes more of something, 30% or 70%?

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              You’re missing the point so hard it’s not even funny.

              The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.

              The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).

              Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won’t have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.

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                2 days ago

                data centers are built in the middle of nowhere

                show me how this works without the internet

                where are the training data sets coming from?

                why are foss projects getting shit on?

                why are small to mid websites choking on scrapers?

                why is so much of our digital media complete slop?

                so yea totally different and separable

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                  Are you trying to suggest that foss projects, small websites, and digital media will somehow benefit from destroying the internet?

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                    what is this hard on for destroying the internet?

                    get off your strawman

                    fucking waste of time