Be well comrade

*Edit: fitting

“Actual leftists are taking over the dem party” -is that because progressives backed dems no matter what or is it because they held out? -currently taking over the party… are you a goldfish? How long is your memory? Whether these short term recent wins translate into a takeover remains to be seen. -if you want the take over to continue continue taking every DNC candidate to the mat and when they try to use the DNC machine to manipulate outcomes punish them for it.

I do not agree that putting a DNC dem in power moves the system left. You need that assumption to make your position make sense. If that’s not true your argument falls apart. I believe it’s not true.

My final thought… I am clearly not part of your party. The two party system forces people who think other than red or blue to crawl into the husk of one of those positions to participate in the system. If we ever get to a point where we break the two party system it is likely that DEMs and the GOP are both the opposition for the left.

What history? Be specific.

Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in what battle? I am not in your far right vs center right fight.

I obviously can distinguish between the GOP and DNC (my comment said if things changed it would appear to be an improvement).

The reality of arguing that the left needs to compromise and embrace the “lesser evils” of the DNC in the face of the evils of the GOP is that it hands the GOP a cudgel. Don’t propose ideas that are too left or the right will lash out. Meanwhile, the right has been orchestrating a conservative backslide for decades.

I do enjoy a good personal attack when one side can’t formulate anything of substance to say. If it makes you feel better to call me morally bankrupt, you can have it.

The thing is, what passes for the left in America has been compromising its values for decades. That is the constant drum beat. And here we are. Explain, why more of the same will change course.

How’d that primary strategy work out in 2024?

You are voting 3rd party in the primary but somehow fail to realize GOP and DNC are owned by the same interest. The illusion in the cave is that you think the DNC is left. (You call the DNC left of center above).

Voting to center right (DNC) when you want to be left of center will never shift American politics left. Trump is the boogeyman that gets you to abandon what you claim to stand for (progressivism).

MAGA co-opted the GOP by refusing to compromise. This shifted the GOP even further right. When progressives compromise the entire American political spectrum bell curve just shifts further right.

I understand that you think your approach will produce an immediate harm reduction. I am sure it will look that way, but the steady march to the right won’t stop if the left side of the spectrum caves while the right does not

Have you ever considered the reason we are here is because you haven’t learned yet?

Chuck Schumer Eats Shit

Abdul El-Sayed’s victory is earthquake for Democratic Party old guard

KEN KLIPPENSTEIN

AUG 05, 2026

Is this even a real question? Because it seems genuine, I will treat it as such.

Instead of hand wringing and making abstract statements, you can answer your own question by explaining what this process looks like on the individual level:

Start with you. You say we have the right to guns AND aren’t you all armed up the wazoo. Assuming this means that you aren’t armed or trained. So you have to become armed and get trained to be effective in the manner you are describing. Then you have to get organized to be effective. That involves time, opportunity cost, and risk.

Move to others. This same process has to happen across a critical mass of individuals. We can barely get unions organized in the USA. That’s trying to get people to rally behind their own economic interests. It’s an order of magnitude more difficult to get people to organize for something less tangible.

Realize it’s by design. The system (capitalism) is designed to keep us all running on the hamster wheel so we cannot take the steps necessary to become individually valuable to an organized movement. In contrast, it creates paid professional positions (the police/military) to enforce the rules of that system. Currently, those that run the system are (hopefully) reaching the threshold of what the cogs will tolerate.

Call it hypnotism if you want. The truth is that the majority of the working class is still subjected to the same top down rule that that we always have been under whatever form of hierarchical rule has been the flavor of the day. I attribute the general shock that many are expressing for the current moment to recently realizing that we are all still stuck in Plato’s Cave.

What to do. Understand where you are in the arch of history. Keep pushing in the direction you want things to go. Keep passing knowledge and training on. Keep maintaining social connections with like minded individuals. Do all this so that those who are in the right place, at the right time, can do the right thing.

This mentality is why there are more armed fascists than leftists, comrade

Range time starts at 6AM on the weekends.

the heavily armed “Americans”. You love to shove in our faces as a stereotype have been entirely propagandized into supporting the very people oppressing them.

Be the change you want to see in the world

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